[Kde-pim] Request to exclude KMail from the KDE 4.0 release

[Sander van Grieken]

> Hi,
>
> OK, here is my offical request to keep KMail out of the KDE 4.0 release. There
> are too many things badly broken (see list below), and there is only me and
> some occasional contributers working on KMail for trunk.
> I definitly don't have the time to fix these problems myself, even though we
> have another month until KDE 4.0 is released.
>
> I stronly oppose releasing KMail in the current state, because of the grave
> problems (like mail loss) it has. It would ruin its reputation and the users
> would be rightfully angry and disappointed.
>
> So please, exclude KMail from the release.
> Can this be done when tagging the release (or release canidates)?
>
> The question then is of course what to do with Kontact, as KMail is one of its
> most important components.
>
> Any thoughts?

I agree. If it's this broken it shouldn't be shipped. I hope it's possible to provide
stable 3.5 branch parts where the 4.0 branch isn't stable yet?

> The list of the biggest problems (there are many more small problems of
> course):
>
> 1.
> Sends HTML mail by default, apparently with wrong content-type so nobody can
> read it.
>
> 2.
> According to Dmitry Suzdalev, using POP3 with Google Mail has many timeout
> errors (confirmed by me) and is even deleting mails from the server without
> retriving them.
>
> 3.
> Mails bigger than ~13 kB can not be sent.
> To quote Thiago:
>>"The problem is: kio_smtp is using TCPSlaveBase, which I had ported to
> QTcpSocket, but reverted due to no SSL support. So, please don't continue
> your port. Bear with the 1440 bytes limit or help me write the new SSL
> framework."
>
>>"Make SSL work first. Then all problems magically solve."
>
> So this won't work until the new SSL framework arrives.

What?! This alone should hold off the entire KDE4 release! So this means no KDE app is
able to use SSL??

> 4.
> The editor is totally broken due to the incomplete port to KMeditor in
> libkdepim. This is probably also the cause of 1). Some problems include fixed
> font not working, no green quote font, HTML mode suddenly being enabled after
> editing drafts/outgoing messages, HTML code appearing after changing
> identities, broken spellcheck, incorrect toogle actions and probably many
> more.
> The broken editor also prevents KNode from sending mails.
> Fixing the editor properly would take much time.
>
> 5.
> Encryption stuff propably does not work at all. Nobody looked at it during
> porting and on the krush days somebody reported that it doesn't work.
>
> 6.
> IMAP seems to have some bad bugs:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152652
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152692
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152756
>
> I guess the IMAP port is not entirely completed.
>
>
> Regards,
> Thomas

Thanks for giving this update. I'll try to see if I can help out here and there,
although I'm not a very experienced Qt/KDE developer.

grtz,
Sander


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