System-wide wireless connection bug

Thu Mar 10 21:48:27 CET 2011

Em Thursday 10 March 2011, Lamarque Vieira Souza escreveu:
> Em Thursday 10 March 2011, Andrey Borzenkov escreveu:
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jirka Klimes <jklimes at redhat.com> wrote:
> > > On Thursday 10 of March 2011 07:23:56 Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
> > >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Lamarque Vieira Souza
> > >> 
> > >> <lamarque at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > Em Wednesday 09 March 2011, Andrey Borzenkov escreveu:
> > >> >> 2011/3/9 Lamarque Vieira Souza <lamarque at gmail.com>:
> > >> >> > Hi,
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > What is the status of your work on system connections
> > >> >> > implementation?
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > Does it still have the problems you mentioned below? I see you
> > >> >> > have been
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > working in a git branch:
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=clones%2Fnetworkmanagement%2F
> > >> >> > go kce n%2
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > Fnetworkmanagement.git&a=shortlog&h=refs/heads/systemwide
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > with several modifications for networkmanagement besides system
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > connections.
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> I was testing this branch and I do not remember any issue with
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> wireless - I think I could see both wired and wireless system
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> connections.
> > >> > 
> > >> > Good to know that.
> > >> > 
> > >> >> > Do you plan to push those changes to master?
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> This branch does not support user settings as of now. What are
> > >> >> plans
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> regarding NM 0.9? It dropped user settings completely; may be it
> > >> >> makes
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> sense to target this branch at NM 0.9 support? This obsoletes user
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> settings problem completely.
> > >> > 
> > >> > We still need user settings support for those who are not going to
> > >> > upgrade to NM 0.9 soon. Have you tested that branch against a NM 0.9
> > >> > snapshot?
> > >> 
> > >> No. It is very unlikely to work due to D-Bus API changes, secrets
> > >> handling changes, ...
> > >> 
> > >> I do not know if it possible at all to have support for both NM 0.8
> > >> and NM 0.9 in a single program. For a start, all NM lib major were
> > >> increased so it is not clear how to even compile such binary.
> > >> 
> > >> I thought more about current KNM 0.9 support NM 0.8 and move forward
> > >> to 0.10 (or whatever) with NM 0.9 support.
> > >> 
> > >> > I
> > >> > still need to figure out what kind of changes we will need to do in
> > >> > Solid::Control::NetworkManager (or its successor) to accomodate NM
> > >> > 0.9 specification. Maybe it is a good idea to create a new
> > >> > networkmanager-0.9 backend in kde://kde-workspace/solid/
> > >> 
> > >> Does it help?
> > >> 
> > >> http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/developers/migrating-to-09/
> > > 
> > > Hi guys,
> > > 
> > > yeah, NM 0.9 changes the API a bit, so it is not compatible with 0.8.
> > > Basicaly the API is simplified and applets can save a ton of code,
> > > because they don't have to deal with user connections.
> > > 
> > > Moreover, Dan would like to release NM 0.9 very soon (16th of March):
> > > http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2011/02/24/networkmanager-0-8-4-beta1-gets-
> > > al l-up- in-there/
> 
> 	That is too soon for KDE :-/
> 
> > > And it will be in Fedora 15 too. Most of the stuff that depends on the
> > > new NM is already changed. But the KDE'a applet is not ready. And we
> > > don't what to let KDE users down. I think it's better to do the work
> > > right in upstream than just make patches for Fedora.
> 
> 	I agree about working with upstream, that really helps.
> 
> > > I would suggest to create a new branch in the main repo for that to be
> > > able to have separate applets for NM 0.8 and NM 0.9.
> 
> 	Sebastian Kügler <sebas at kde.org> and  Will Stephenson
> <wstephenson at kde.org> have to approve that in my oppinion, specially
> because Will is officially the Plasma NM maintainer. Sebas, Will, what do
> you think?
> 
> > > Since NM 0.9 uses just system-wide connections it is crucial that knm
> > > supports them. Is the cloned repo with the systemwide branch working?
> > > Could it be merged to the new branch for NM 0.9 created on main repo?
> 
> 	It seems to be working according to Andrey Borzenkov, but the repo's ower
> (Gökcen Eraslan) has not appeared here in list for few months. I would like
> him to answer that question and if he has tested the code against a NM-0.9
> snapshot. The repository also contains changes not related to system
> connections implementation.
> 
> > > Yeah, the API changes are here:
> > > http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/developers/migrating-to-09/
> > > I am ready to help with the migration to NM 0.9.
> > > 
> > > BTW, is the Solid code dependent on NM version or is it sufficient to
> > > just adapt networkmanagement applet?
> > 
> > Well ... except for missing new properties and lack of IPv6 support,
> 
> > the main difference is WWAN; those methods no more exist:
> 	You mean those DBus' interfaces.
> 
> > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Device.Cdma,
> > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Device.Gsm,
> > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Device.Serial
> > 
> > Wired/wireless should actually work I guess to fetch those properties
> > that are supported by Solid.
> > 
> > So yes, some adaptation of Solid is required for mobile to work.
> 
> 	I think it is better add a new Solid NM-0.9 backend
> (git://anongit.kde.org/kde-workspace/solid/networkmanagement-0.9) to deal
> with that changes in Solid. Anway, those changes are going to be available
> only in KDE SC 4.7, which is scheduled to be released late July, unless we
> get approval to change KDE SC's API before that. Releasing those changes
> before KDE SC 4.7 is another thing that should be discussed with Sebas and
> Will.

	Include  
Kevin Ottens <ervin at kde.org> in that list too. He's the Solid's maintainer.

-- 
Lamarque V. Souza
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