Neil Stevens neil at
Sun Jun 22 21:46:35 BST 2003

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On Sunday June 22, 2003 01:40, George Staikos wrote:
> On Sunday 22 June 2003 16:37, Neil Stevens wrote:
> > On Sunday June 22, 2003 01:31, George Staikos wrote:
> > >    I'd like to recommend moving artsbuilder and other associated
> > > arts apps in kdemultimedia to kdenonbeta.  It seems like they are
> > > unmaintained and at least artsbuilder is completely unusable.  I
> > > spent some time on it, but it's full of STL and hand-coded pthreads
> > > and very hard to debug.  Valgrind shows a very large number of UMRs
> > > and other problems.  Aside from those problems, artsbuilder seems to
> > > have major usability problems too.  Input fields don't work
> > > properly, amongst other problems.
> >
> > You really should mail kde-multimedia about this, if you want replies
> > from those who work on kdemultimedia/arts and kdenonbeta/arts.
> >
> > And just saying "and other associated arts apps" is pretty vague.
> > artsbuilder and artscontrol are in two totally different states, for
> > example.
>   I did, no response.  Subject: "Arts Bugs"  I think says
> enough though.

There's a long jump from artsbuilder to "artsbuilder and other associated 
arts apps."  Case by case we can determine what belongs in there.

And I know some stuff in kdemultimedia/arts is maintained, as it was 
recently moved there from kdenonbeta/arts after a bunch of development.  
Working case-by-case we can avoid removing someone's work needlessly.

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Neil Stevens - neil at
"The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's throat, for which the
sheep thanks the shepherd as a liberator, while the wolf denounces him
for the same act as the destroyer of liberty." -- Abraham Lincoln
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