kdemultimedia/noatun/library

[Neil Stevens]

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On Saturday August 31, 2002 02:44, Charles Samuels wrote:
> Saturday 31 August 2002 01:51 pm, skrev Neil Stevens:
> > What will removing it from the release achieve that shipping it in a
> > beta did not?  We can't fix problems we can't find, and not shipping
> > the plugin will deny us the ability to get testers.
>
> I'l give us a chance to fix the big problems that we do know about,
> particularly it taking 85MB memory, Xine still forgetting about it's
> settings, Xine using OpenGL drawing by default instead of Xshm or XV. 
> And many of the problems are of course not our fauilt, but the Xine
> team's. However, just because it's not our fault doesn't mean we should
> ship it.
>
> I'm worried that we're going to get hundreds of bug reports, that of
> course I, solely, will be blamed for.  It's happened before.

Then disable video support in Noatun, if you find it unstable.

> This very thread started with a bug that I recently exposed, Ewald
> improved the situation slightly, but it's still broken.
>
> Even if it takes major workarounds to make fix some of these bugs, like
> making Xine's plugin fork on load, so that the 85MB of ram is only used
> when playing something.
>
> There is NO way we can release this code.  Mpeglib works so much better
> RIGHT NOW that it's ridiculous to even have this discussion.

Reasonable people can disagree.

> > Of course, requiring a cvs version is also denying us testing at
> > present, but that's why I asked about when Xine is scheduled for the
> > next release.
>
> So we released a beta version that nobody could use in the first place?
> That's effectively saying that we didn't have a beta release at all. 
> All the more reason to wait until 3.2.

A majority of respondents to my poll said it did work.  You and I are in 
the minority. 

- -- 
Neil Stevens - neil at qualityassistant.com
"I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding
because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they
have not a single political argument left." - Margaret Thatcher
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