kdemultimedia/noatun/library

Charles Samuels charles at kde.org
Sat Aug 31 22:44:15 BST 2002


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Saturday 31 August 2002 01:51 pm, skrev Neil Stevens:
> What will removing it from the release achieve that shipping it in a beta
> did not?  We can't fix problems we can't find, and not shipping the plugin
> will deny us the ability to get testers.

I'l give us a chance to fix the big problems that we do know about, 
particularly it taking 85MB memory, Xine still forgetting about it's 
settings, Xine using OpenGL drawing by default instead of Xshm or XV.  And 
many of the problems are of course not our fauilt, but the Xine team's.  
However, just because it's not our fault doesn't mean we should ship it.

I'm worried that we're going to get hundreds of bug reports, that of course I, 
solely, will be blamed for.  It's happened before.

This very thread started with a bug that I recently exposed, Ewald improved 
the situation slightly, but it's still broken.

Even if it takes major workarounds to make fix some of these bugs, like making 
Xine's plugin fork on load, so that the 85MB of ram is only used when playing 
something.

There is NO way we can release this code.  Mpeglib works so much better RIGHT 
NOW that it's ridiculous to even have this discussion.

>
> Of course, requiring a cvs version is also denying us testing at present,
> but that's why I asked about when Xine is scheduled for the next release.

So we released a beta version that nobody could use in the first place?  
That's effectively saying that we didn't have a beta release at all.  All the 
more reason to wait until 3.2.

BTW, I would really like to get some sort of legitimate video support in KDE 
soon, but not when it's so buggy and broken.

- -Charles

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