[KDE/Mac] kde-mac Digest, Vol 76, Issue 7

René J.V. Bertin rjvbertin at gmail.com
Sun Apr 10 09:39:23 UTC 2016

On Sunday April 10 2016 10:44:28 Jonathan Schultz wrote:

>What exactly is the difference between the basic port and the -devel 
>subport? Should I be trying to install the kf5-okular-devel subport 
>rather than just kf5-okular?

The -devel ports are typically used for pre-release versions, of the software or the port implementation. For instance, qt5-kde-devel currently contains Qt 5.6.0 (vs. 5.5.1 in qt5-kde) but is also used as a test-bed for new patches or build options.

If you look at `port info kf5-okular` you'll see the message that Okular doesn't have a KF5 release version yet (to my knowledge). Once you get to the point where MacPorts is actually going to fetch the tarball you'll get an error instead. It's a bit unfortunate that this doesn't happen immediately, but since the -devel port has the same dependencies the preparatory efforts will not have been wasted.

>OK so while installing gtk3 (I have no idea why it tries to install 
>gtk3!) I see:

Interesting, I don't see gtk3 as a recursive dependency of kf5-okular, but `port rdeps` doesn't necessarily show all kinds of dependencies (not the build nor the runtime deps, IIRC).

>How does this work? Is not version @1.40.0 clearly more recent than 

Yes, but MacPorts will simply take the preferred port, where preference is a priority consideration that depends solely on the order in which you define sources in sources.conf .

>And as for transparently ignoring an explicit request to 
>install a particular version, I don't know what to make of it. Surely at 
>least a warning that for whatever reason it cannot install the version I 
>requested is called for?

No. MacPorts does not currently provide any means for ports to depend on specific versions of other ports, nor on specific variants (other than potentially raising an error).
This is more or less by design as the opposite wouldn't (easily) allow for another very useful feature, that of de/activation. In other words, you can keep multiple versions or variants of a port installed, and decide which one to activate.

There's another side-effect: variants (user-requested and "default" ones) percolate down the dependency tree even if they aren't required. That in turn can cause additional dependencies to be pulled in. For instance, a port depending on Qt may have a dependency on some X11-related port B which has a X11 variant that is active by default (because the port is mostly used for X11 software). Of course you can install B with `port install B -X11` to get the version that doesn't contain the X11-specific bits. Of course that Qt port cannot declare a dependency on "B -X11", so the automatic dependency resolver will pull in "B [+X11]" (B with the default X11 dep) and thus also everything required to build and use that X11 functionality. If you don't want that, you need to install "B -X11" manually before installing the desired port ... or afterwards (and then uninstall the unneeded stuff).

>I have no idea. I didn't it to build okular for either Linux or Windows 
>so it's not clear why it should be needed under OSX. Does this help you 
>at all:

I found it

>> --->  Dependencies to be installed: mobipocket 

Yep. `port rdeps kf5-okular` also showed that kdelibs4 is needed by mobipocket (kdegraphics-mobipocket).
It doesn't look that there's a way to build that without depending on kdelibs4 .
Strange in fact, because libqmobipocket would depend on Qt4, and one is not supposed to mingle Qt4 and Qt5 in a single application?!

Maybe you have some idea about this little problem?

>I have no such file, but I do find a file 

Ah, stupid me. That's port:grantlee we're talking about, the Qt4/KDE4 version. I'm not sure why you'd need to install that one either, what does `port dependents grantlee` tell you?

>Sorry to be such a noob but don't know how to determine this. I can 

`port dir grantlee`


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