[KDE/Mac] kdesrc-build

[Jeremy Whiting]

René,

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 6:45 AM, René J.V. <rjvbertin at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday November 27 2014 14:14:16 Mario Fux wrote:
>
>
> >Yes and that's not true. Or not properly written: KDE apps 4.x are working
> >_beneath_ Qt5-based once. But I think we agree and it's just a detail.
>
> Well, I certainly did not want  to imply that KDE4 applications would be
> using Qt5, but I *was* under the impression (illusion?) that some
> backwards-compatibility flavour of kdelibs4 was part of KF5.
> So what exactly do you mean with _beneath_ Qt5 based apps?
>

I think Mario mixed words. As I read his e-mail I cringed a bit also
because "beneath" imlpies some sort of relationship. I would have said
"Next to" in every case where he said "beneath".

As far as the other question about kdelibs4 in kf5. kf5 has a
kdelibs4support framework that makes it somewhat a two step process to port
from kdelibs4/qt4 to kf5/qt5. It contains many of the convenience classes
and functions that kdelibs4 had so applications can first port to qt5/kf5
with kdelibs4support then port away from kdelibs4support as a second step
if wanted. It is similar to Qt3Support classes in Qt4 itself. Ideally
applications should use Q* classes where they are available and any added
functionality it K* classes isn't required. Also even with kdelibs4support
porting an application from kdelibs4/qt4 to kf5/qt5 isn't trivial, but
there are scripts in kde-dev-scripts/kf5 folder to help with most of the
tasks involved.

Another possible reason to use the word "beneath" is that many applications
that are still using Qt4/kdelibs4 are able to run under plasma 5. I've been
using plasma5 for about half a year by now with not too many issues on
linux. I still have kdelibs4 around to run amarok, kmymoney, and a few
other applications that haven't been ported yet.

BR,
Jeremy


>
> >> But where I was right was in thinking that if you want a "full"
> experience
> >> (whether with the Plasma "desktop sauce" or without) you'll need both
> KDE4
> >> and KF5 as long as not all KDE4 applications have been ported. Right? :)
> >
> >Yes. But let me nitpick a bit more (because I think it's important). "all
> KDE
> >applications" is meanwhile so many applications that I'd think nobody will
> >want to install all of them. From Dolphin, Konqueror, KDEPIM, KDE Games,
> KDE
> >Edu, Amarok, KMyMoney to DigiKam, KPhotoalbum, kde-gtk-config, Kamoso,
> >KRecipes and Bodega and Co.
>
> Of course not (and kde-gtk-config wouldn't make sense either ;)) But
> applications that are really part of Plasma aside, it might well be that
> most of the other applications will find their way to at least 1 someone's
> OS X computer.
>
> >similar and work similar but the "full" experience is not there, they are
> just
> >great apps on a certain platform.
>
> I cannot speak for MS Windows, but I find that the experience is full
> enough, after a bit a tweaking here and there (fonts and keyboard shortcuts
> mostly).
>
>
> >And now I try to be silent again and go back to the kde-promo corner ;-)
>
> Wait, are you lobbying to add kde-mac to your promo portfolio? ;)
>
> Cheers,
> René
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