[kde-linux] interaction of kde3 and kde4 configurations

[Paul]

On Friday 01 August 2008 6:06:22 Beso wrote:
> 2008/7/31 <pkaplan1 at comcast.net>
>
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Beso <givemesugarr at gmail.com>
> >
> > > 2008/7/31 <pkaplan1 at comcast.net>
> > >
> > > > After installing kde4.1 on kubuntu 8.04 that had kde 3.5.9 already
> > > > installed I lost sound under 3.5.9.  (My guess is that this occurred
> >
> > after
> >
> > > > the first time I launched 4.1.)  After much searching I discovered
> > > > that
> >
> > the
> >
> > > > problem lay in kde4.1 kmix.  Apparently it is muted by default on
> > > > installation (no idea why) and even though 3.5.9 kmix is not muted,
> >
> > there is
> >
> > > > no sound in any environment.  After unmuting in 4.1, sound was
> >
> > restored.
> >
> > > > This leads to my real question/problem.
> > > >
> > > > I also noticed that after 4.1 was installed, session management on
> >
> > 3.5.9 is
> >
> > > > flaky.  Windows don't appear on the correct desktop and sometimes are
> >
> > in the
> >
> > > > wrong position as well.  I checked to make sure that session
> > > > management
> >
> > is
> >
> > > > enabled in both 3.5.9 and 4.1.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone else seen this windowing behavior?  Is there a solution?
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > >
> > > i don't knwo how kubuntu handles both versions on the same system, but
> > > my gentoo box has 2 different .kde dirs and a .kde symlink that points
> > > to
> >
> > the
> >
> > > current kde session. try to check if kubuntu handles things in the same
> >
> > way.
> >
> > > if that's the way it works, then you'll just need to move elsewhere the
> > > 2 .kde3.5 and .kde4.1 dirs and then recreate them by doing a fresh
> > > login
> >
> > and
> >
> > > reconfiguring the stuff again.
> >
> > Kubuntu uses ~/.kde for the default 3.5.9 version and ~/.kde4 for 4.0
> > and, now, 4.1 (the latter is an update to 4.0.)  KDE 4 installs to
> > /usr/lib/kde4 so the versions should be isolated, but the behavior
> > suggests not.
> >
> > BTW this happened to me on a cleanly installed version of the distro w/
> > 3.5.9 onto which I added 4.1, so both of the kde config directories were
> > virgin.
>
> the problem might be the following:
> you're trying to use .kde4.1 instead of .kde4. try to do the following:
>
> log into kde3.5 then logout to the kdm login. then start a console with
> ctrl+alt+f1 for example, log in as your user and do a:
>
> mkdir backup
> mv .kde backup/.kde3.5
> mv .kde4 backup/
> mv .kde4.1 backup/
>
> then switch back to terminal 7 with ctrl+alt+f7 and login again into
> kde3.5. then logout, and login with session as kde4.1. now everything
> should be ok.

The problem occured with fresh install so there were no residual .kde or .kde4 
directories.  In any case Kubuntu uses .kde4 for both 4.0.x and 4.1.

The problem may not be caused by the config directories, but by the 
interaction of some other files in the two installations or (ugh) some file 
unique to my systems.  Seems odd that I'm the only one with the problem, but 
that it's reproducible on two systems.
P