[kde-linux] POP Filters

Gaffer. derrick_s at tesco.net
Thu Oct 18 19:40:11 UTC 2007


On Thursday 18 October 2007 19:53, david inscribed thus:
> Gaffer. wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > On Thursday 18 October 2007 07:50, david inscribed thus:
> >> Gaffer. wrote:
> >>> Hi Werner,
> >>>
> >>> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 19:19, Werner Joss inscribed thus:
> >>>> Am Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007 20:12 schrieben Sie:
> >>>>>>> Running SuSE 10.2 Kmail 1.9.5 KDE 3.5.5.  I don't seem to
> >>>>>>> be able to get "POP filters" to work.  My mail server
> >>>>>>> running "Spam Assassin" tags the spam with "X-Spam-Flag =
> >>>>>>> Yes".   But POP filter doesn't seem to delete them from the
> >>>>>>> server,  they get downloaded and caught by  "Filter Rules" 
> >>>>>>> which correctly puts them in the wasetbin.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Is it me or doesn't POP filters work like I expect it to !
> >>>>>>> ie read the headers and delete them from the server as
> >>>>>>> instructed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I could be wrong,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm relative sure, you are :)
> >>>> - as I understand the OP, there is already spamassassin
> >>>> running at his ISP's mailserver, tagging suspect emails with
> >>>> "X-Spam-Flag = Yes" _before_ something else happens.
> >>>> so he could set up a pop filter which just looks at this to
> >>>> decide to delete mails on the server. which doesn't seem to
> >>>> work.
> >>>>
> >>>> werner
> >>>
> >>> Yes that is exactly what I mean.
> >>>
> >>> My assumption was that by creating a POP filter I could simply
> >>> delete everything tagged without downloading it.  In practice
> >>> the POP filter mechanism in Kmail does not seem to do that. 
> >>> Either I am doing something wrongly, or the POP filtering is
> >>> broken.
> >>
> >> I seem to recall, from my days long ago using Pegasus Mail for
> >> Windows, an otherwise-excellent mail client handicapped by being
> >> a Windows program,
> >
> > Yes I remember "Pegasus"   Does it still exist ?
>
> Yes, it does - http://www.pmail.com/. Still DOS and Windows only.
> The author periodically makes noises about open sourcing it, but
> has weird ideas about what that means. And even though what money
> he's made from his products for many many years now has come from
> support contracts, he seems to have missed the fact that you can
> make money that same way with an open source product ...

In that case the guy is probably too closed mind to change.

> >> that the only way POP filters can work with mail
> >> is to download it FIRST. Pegasus had a function that could scan
> >> the headers from your mail server, then you could mark and
> >> selectively delete mail. But all mail filtering required
> >> downloading the mail before a filter could act on it.
> >
> > Yes you could do that with "Pegasus"   Which when I was on "Dial
> > up" was great.   But that was in my days on the dark side. ;-)
>
> I don't know, maybe it would work well enough under WINE for you to
> use that function?

There is no point nowadays !  What with a 8Mb max connection currently 
about 4.6Mb  the mail comes down the tube so fast you barely notice.

Thanks:

-- 
Best Regards:
             Derrick.



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