[kde-linux] POP Filters

david gnome at hawaii.rr.com
Thu Oct 18 18:53:01 UTC 2007

Gaffer. wrote:
> Hi David,
> On Thursday 18 October 2007 07:50, david inscribed thus:
>> Gaffer. wrote:
>>> Hi Werner,
>>> On Wednesday 17 October 2007 19:19, Werner Joss inscribed thus:
>>>> Am Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007 20:12 schrieben Sie:
>>>>>>> Running SuSE 10.2 Kmail 1.9.5 KDE 3.5.5.  I don't seem to be
>>>>>>> able to get "POP filters" to work.  My mail server running
>>>>>>> "Spam Assassin" tags the spam with "X-Spam-Flag = Yes".   But
>>>>>>> POP filter doesn't seem to delete them from the server,  they
>>>>>>> get downloaded and caught by  "Filter Rules"  which correctly
>>>>>>> puts them in the wasetbin.
>>>>>>> Is it me or doesn't POP filters work like I expect it to !
>>>>>>> ie read the headers and delete them from the server as
>>>>>>> instructed.
>>>>>>> Thanks:
>>>>> I could be wrong,
>>>> I'm relative sure, you are :)
>>>> - as I understand the OP, there is already spamassassin running
>>>> at his ISP's mailserver, tagging suspect emails with
>>>> "X-Spam-Flag = Yes" _before_ something else happens.
>>>> so he could set up a pop filter which just looks at this to
>>>> decide to delete mails on the server. which doesn't seem to
>>>> work.
>>>> werner
>>> Yes that is exactly what I mean.
>>> My assumption was that by creating a POP filter I could simply
>>> delete everything tagged without downloading it.  In practice the
>>> POP filter mechanism in Kmail does not seem to do that.  Either I
>>> am doing something wrongly, or the POP filtering is broken.
>> I seem to recall, from my days long ago using Pegasus Mail for
>> Windows, an otherwise-excellent mail client handicapped by being a
>> Windows program,
> Yes I remember "Pegasus"   Does it still exist ?

Yes, it does - http://www.pmail.com/. Still DOS and Windows only. The 
author periodically makes noises about open sourcing it, but has weird 
ideas about what that means. And even though what money he's made from 
his products for many many years now has come from support contracts, he 
seems to have missed the fact that you can make money that same way with 
an open source product ...

>> that the only way POP filters can work with mail 
>> is to download it FIRST. Pegasus had a function that could scan the
>> headers from your mail server, then you could mark and selectively
>> delete mail. But all mail filtering required downloading the mail
>> before a filter could act on it.
> Yes you could do that with "Pegasus"   Which when I was on "Dial up"  
> was great.   But that was in my days on the dark side. ;-)

I don't know, maybe it would work well enough under WINE for you to use 
that function?

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