[Kde-kiosk] Kiosk problem

[Daniel Villavicencio]

Sorry, i need to learn how to use kiosk first, when i load the admin tool i 
create a new profile
and i name it with the name of the user that i want to be restricted in my 
case the user is "buho",
now when i try to apply any restriction the system show me a window asking 
me user and password,
by default the user the windows show is "buho", i try to put the user buho´s 
password and it didn´t work
i use the user root and root´s password and didn´t work neither, the error i 
get is "can´t write the file
fish://buho@localhost/etc/kde-profile/buho". If i create the dir manually 
then i get error refering to other dir /share
or /kdeglobals and so.

i want someone help me what i need to do (step by step) for make 
restrictiong to non root users....

PD: i´m using fedora core 4 test 3, kde 3.4 and kiosktool 1.0

please i need help and i need it fast !!!!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martijn Klingens" <klingens at kde.org>
To: <kde-kiosk at kde.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Kde-kiosk] Kiosk problem


> On Saturday 14 May 2005 02:24, Daniel Villavicencio wrote:
>> Hi everyone, i want to use kiosk for making something similar you can do
>> with windows active directory but when i try to save any changes to the
>> profile i get a message error telling me that the
>> user at localhost\etc\kde-profile folder couldn't be created, what must i 
>> do??
>
> Did you use backslashes somewhere or are you just using them out of habit?
> Unix uses forward slashes ('/') like URLs, not the backslashes that Dos 
> and
> Windows use.
>
> Apart from that, did you enter the correct password for the 'root' user?
> Although you start kiosktool as a normal (unprivileged) user, you need the
> root password to be able to write to /etc.
>
> Third, did the error really say 'user'? Or did you replace 'root' with it? 
> It
> should say 'root' there, since that's the user who can write to /etc.
>
> Fourth, what KDE version and KioskTool version are you using?
>
> Last, please note that Windows Group Policy and KDE Kiosk Profiles are not
> entirely comparable. I plan to write a comparison on the two one day, but 
> due
> to lack of time that might very well take another year or so before I get 
> to
> it. In short some notable differences:
>
> * Windows is administered centrally through AD. KDE requires Kiosk being 
> set
> up on individual workstations, although of course you can synchronize the
> profiles from a central location. I don't know if using an LDAP server can
> bring KDE up to par here, but as far as I know Kiosk doesn't have enough
> support for LDAP to be a real replacement in large enterprise rollouts up 
> to
> the point where profiles are automatically loaded based on LDAP settings.
>
> * KDE supports 'default' settings next to 'locked down' settings, whereas
> Windows doesn't really have the notion of setting defaults that a user can
> still override if he or she likes to. There is the concept of a default 
> user
> profile in Windows, but that is much trickier to use, and doesn't allow
> changing the defaults for existing users (that didn't customize the
> particular settings yet).
>
> * Windows allows the Administrator to grant fine-grained control over the
> directory (and hence the group policies contained in it) to other people, 
> and
> even without using delegation of control you can make other people member 
> of
> the Domain Admins group to give them full reign over the AD and hence the
> policies. In KDE only root ultimately has write access to the profile and
> only a single user is allowed to start KioskTool, bypassing existing 
> profiles
> once they are in place.
>
> * KDE supports expansion of variables and the output of shell commands in 
> most
> settings. This is extremely useful if the setting you want to supply is 
> not
> constant, but can be retrieved from the environment or generated by a 
> script.
> Windows has only limited support for environment variable expansion and no
> support for scripts to set defaults.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> -- 
> Martijn
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