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Sun Nov 8 12:21:59 GMT 2020

2020)ko azaroak 8, igandea 11:48:11 (CET) Albert Astals Cid idatzi zuen:
> El diumenge, 8 de novembre de 2020, a les 8:12:53 CET, Iñigo Salvador 
Azurmendi va escriure:
> > 2020ko azaroak 7, larunbata 22:10:07 (CET) Albert Astals Cid idatzi zuen:
> > > El dissabte, 7 de novembre de 2020, a les 12:53:52 CET, Iñigo Salvador
> > 
> > Azurmendi va escriure:
> > > > 2020ko azaroak 2, astelehena 22:44:55 (CET) Albert Astals Cid idatzi 
zuen:
> > > > > El dilluns, 2 de novembre de 2020, a les 19:43:14 CET, Iñigo
> > > > > Salvador
> > > > 
> > > > Azurmendi va escriure:
> > > > > > By the way, is this mailing list the place to ask for website
> > > > > > related
> > > > > > issues?
> > > > > 
> > > > > If they are not translation related, no. If they are translation
> > > > > related,
> > > > > sure.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know for sure whether this is a translation related issue or
> > > > not.
> > > > 
> > > > Portuguese (pt) and Spanish (es) translations appear repeated 10
> > > > times.
> > > 
> > > Repeated where?
> > 
> > In the localized pages.
> > Carl has fixed es and eu, pt has improved but its text are still
> > duplicated.
> > 
> > https://timeline.kde.org/
> > Select -> pt
> 
> Yeah, but I am not a mind reader (even though seems that Carl is).
> 
> If you search in all the "commented out" answers in this email thread, this
> is the first mention of timeline.kde.org

Although Carl might be a telepathist, most probably he remembers/can read my 
first message, the one you answered erasing part of it.

«From: Iñigo...
Date: 20/11/2 19:43
Hi,
I have translated   messages/websites-timeline-kde-org/timeline-kde-org.po   
to Euskara/Basque (eu). Should I do anything for it to be published?

By the way, is this mailing list the place to ask for website related issues?

Thanks,
Iñigo»

:-D  8-D

Albert, you know how much I appreciate you.

Cheers,
Iñigo

> 
> Cheers,
>   Albert
> 
> > Cheers,
> > Iñigo
> > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > >   Albert
> > >   
> > > > Basque (eu) translations are on the trail with 7 repetitions.
> > > > 
> > > > While English (en) and Chinese (Zh) display properly.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't see anything strange in pt, es, eu translated strings, but
> > > > Chinese
> > > > displays correctly so...
> > > > 
> > > > Should I post a bug report about this?
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Iñigo
> > > > 
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Albert
> > > > >   
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Iñigo
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 2020ko urriak 22, osteguna 21:04:27 (CET) Carl Schwan idatzi zuen:
> > > > > > > Hello everyone,
> > > > > > > I have been doing quite a bit of work on the kde.org website
> > > > > > > finishing
> > > > > > > the port to the Hugo static website generator that was started
> > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > Anuj
> > > > > > > during his GSoC.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The new system provides a better internalization system and this
> > > > > > > should allow translating a bigger part of the kde.org, creating
> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > unique
> > > > > > > URL for each language (better for search engines), no need to
> > > > > > > individually tag each strings for translations, and add global
> > > > > > > language
> > > > > > > selector. There are also some other advantages like editing
> > > > > > > markdown
> > > > > > > instead of html/php for the promo team, autogenerated
> > > > > > > announcement
> > > > > > > listing, SEO tag included on every page, ...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The migration is planned for this weekend. I still need to
> > > > > > > notify
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > release team and adapt their release scripts to create a correct
> > > > > > > file
> > > > > > > and also do a last checkup to make sure I didn't break anything
> > > > > > > during
> > > > > > > the migrations.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Now the bad news is that the move will break some strings and
> > > > > > > add a
> > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > of new strings. The strings that will break are mostly focused
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > Plasma 5.0, Plasma 5.1 and Plasma 5.10 which had some really bad
> > > > > > > i18n()
> > > > > > > call and trying to make the old strings compatible with the new
> > > > > > > format
> > > > > > > would have required writing a complex custom extractor just for
> > > > > > > these
> > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Most of the new strings are the page titles that were previously
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > translated, but not only.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I found that often the interesting information from the
> > > > > > > framework
> > > > > > > announcements weren't translated because this was added manually
> > > > > > > (e.g.
> > > > > > > announcing a new framework).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Same the plasma 5.7 announcement was also only partially
> > > > > > > translatable
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > it will be now completely available for translations. Again it
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > quite complex to try to remain compatible with the old partially
> > > > > > > translated page :(
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > To keep the compatibility between the old translations with the
> > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > strings
> > > > > > > I wrote a small script.
> > > > > > > https://invent.kde.org/websites/kde-org/-/blob/work/hugo-script/
> > > > > > > port
> > > > > > > .py
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I tested it on all the translations and it works now (I found a
> > > > > > > few
> > > > > > > small
> > > > > > > issues with invalid HTML tags that I have now fixed).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That I would need help is merging the
> > > > > > > kde-org-announcements-releases
> > > > > > > po
> > > > > > > files into the kde-org one (this change will merge both
> > > > > > > repositories).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > All the special handling for generating the translations can
> > > > > > > also be
> > > > > > > removed and replaced by the system using StaticMessages.sh.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > And it would be probably a good idea to not touch this po files
> > > > > > > during
> > > > > > > the big migrations.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > My goal is also to have the translations fetched at build time
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > ci, so that they don't get stored in the git repository.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > For those interested, this is the link to the MR
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  https://invent.kde.org/websites/kde-org/-/merge_requests/14
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Carl