[kde-guidelines] Re: www/areas/guidelines/src

Frans Englich frans.englich at telia.com
Mon Dec 13 14:04:23 CET 2004

On Tuesday 07 December 2004 21:57, you wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 December 2004 20:55, Frans Englich wrote:
> > On Monday 06 December 2004 17:09, Lauri Watts wrote:

> > index.docbook#43:
> > <!-- Include the Usability Book -->
> > <xi:include xmlns:xi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude"
> > href="usability/index.docbook" />
> >
> > Naww :)
> Naww indeeed - this will be removed.  It's the result of me testing how
> well they'd work, and what issues they create.  The decision to use system
> entities stands, 

No, here is no decision. Here is disagreement, and you are proceeding anyway. 
There's just as much a decision on system entities as there is on 
XInclusions, the difference is that you committed your preference. The only 
one who have commented on this issue is me -- and I have disagreed.

We have discussed this: you have claimed XInclusions requires a DTD upgrade, I 
explained it doesn't; you claimed it breaks validation, I explained it 
doesn't; and your last argument have been that XIncludes isn't "KDE Standard 
Procedures", and compared it to switching KDE from C++, which I of course 
counter argued, but which you ignored.

The case of section vs sectX is similar; you argued that it was impossible to 
write recursive templates, I explained it didn't, but you silently ignored 
that too.

This is how it looks to me: you linger with whatever arguments, and when they 
are properly counter acted and you can't come up with new ones, you ignore 
the critisism. It looks like stubborness; you are even arguing against the 
W3C and Docbook comittee. Why, Lauri? Is it some "pride" thing, that changing 
opinion or going for someone else's proposal would undermine your "doc queen 
status"? No? Well, then tell me why it's so hard to justify your opinions, 
and to answer my mails. 

This is similar to what I wrote in the two paragraphs in the previous letter, 
but which you snipped and ignored.

In this letter you imply that you have issues with XInclusions. Then expose 
them so we can work them out. I'll gladly put my knowledge to service -- just 
as how you explains how KDE's doc system works.



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