[Kde-games-devel] Merge frameworks in master

[Ian Wadham]

On 01/01/2015, at 7:48 PM, laurent Montel wrote:

> Le Thursday 01 January 2015 14:31:31 Ian Wadham a écrit :
>> Hi Laurent,
>> 
>> On 31/12/2014, at 5:23 PM, laurent Montel wrote:
>>> Le Wednesday 31 December 2014 15:02:50 Ian Wadham a écrit :
>>>> Thank you very much, Laurent, for all your work on this.  I particularly
>>>> appreciate you tackling KGoldrunner and Palapeli, which are quite
>>>> large code-bases.
>>>> 
>>>> On 31/12/2014, at 9:54 AM, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
>>>>> El Dimarts, 30 de desembre de 2014, a les 20:59:44, laurent Montel va
>>>>> 
>>>>> What the maintainers of the others say?
>>>> 
>>>> I am still the maintainer of KGoldrunner, KJumpingCube, KSudoku, Kubrick
>>>> and Palapeli.
>>>> 
>>>> Merging the Frameworks versions into master would make it impossible for
>>>> me
>>>> to work on them in the foreseeable future.  The reason is that I work on
>>>> an
>>>> Apple MacBook using OS X operating system and nobody has yet succeeded in
>>>> building and running Frameworks-based applications on that platform.
>>>> 
>>>> We have one guy (Marko Käning) working on it, but he is on Christmas
>>>> holidays now.  He is using Bovo and KMahjongg as test cases.  Just before
>>>> Christmas he reported that he had KMahjongg running, but it would not
>>>> Quit
>>>> properly…
>>> 
>>> Ok but I can't help you in macosx support.
>> 
>> We do not expect you to, Laurent… :-)
>> 
>>>> So please, please hold your horses for now, Laurent… :-)  Please do not
>>>> merge the frameworks branch into master.
>>> 
>>> Ah.
>>> So you don't think it”s a good idea to move theses applications to next
>>> kf5
>>> release ?
>> 
>> I don't understand what it is that you would like to do.  In your original
>> email you said:
>> 
>>    "Now I would like to merge in master as I think it's a good idea to have
>> it in next kde release 'kde-15.3„ kde-15.4„ I don't know when it will
>> release.
>> 
>>     What do you think about it ?"
>> 
>> As far as I am aware, and I think I heard this from Albert on another list,
>> there will be no further releases from master --- KDE 4.14 was the last
>> one.  Indeed, if I understand correctly, the concept of "master" is
>> obsolete in Frameworks/KF5 and releases are done from parallel
>> repositories, e.g. Dr Konqi source code exists in the kde/kde-runtime
>> repository and also (temporarily, I am told) in plasma-workspace repository
>> on KF5.
>> 
>> I am worried by what you meant by "merge in master" in the above.  If you
>> meant frameworks+master -> master, I am against that, because I am using
>> kdesrc-build to get code for the latest KDE 4 and cannot (yet) compile and
>> use KF5 code on Apple OS X.  OTOH, if you meant frameworks+master ->
>> frameworks, that is OK by me.  It will leave me shooting at a fixed target
>> for any bug fixes or improvements I may write for the five games I
>> maintain.
> 
> Kdesrc-build is able to build kde4 and kf5 if you want
> I build kde4 and kf5 on my computer with kdesrc-build it's not a problem.

On Linux, no problem.  But it took me a month or more to get kdesrc-build to
build a suite of KDE 4 software on Apple OS X.  There are definitely some
quirks in the CMake setup to be overcome on that platform… ;-)

Marko Käning has been working on the CI for KF5/Frameworks on Apple OS X
for many more months and is only just starting to get KDE apps to run…  That is
in a virtual environment, which, as far as I know, is exclusively KF5/Frameworks
and Qt 5 --- no mixing with KDE 4 and Qt 4.

Cheers, Ian W.