[Kde-games-devel] Merge frameworks in master

[Jeremy Whiting]

Ian,

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Ian Wadham <iandw.au at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Laurent,
>
> On 31/12/2014, at 5:23 PM, laurent Montel wrote:
> > Le Wednesday 31 December 2014 15:02:50 Ian Wadham a écrit :
> >> Thank you very much, Laurent, for all your work on this.  I particularly
> >> appreciate you tackling KGoldrunner and Palapeli, which are quite
> >> large code-bases.
> >>
> >> On 31/12/2014, at 9:54 AM, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> >>> El Dimarts, 30 de desembre de 2014, a les 20:59:44, laurent Montel va
> >
> >>> What the maintainers of the others say?
> >>
> >> I am still the maintainer of KGoldrunner, KJumpingCube, KSudoku,
> Kubrick and
> >> Palapeli.
> >>
> >> Merging the Frameworks versions into master would make it impossible
> for me
> >> to work on them in the foreseeable future.  The reason is that I work
> on an
> >> Apple MacBook using OS X operating system and nobody has yet succeeded
> in
> >> building and running Frameworks-based applications on that platform.
> >>
> >> We have one guy (Marko Käning) working on it, but he is on Christmas
> >> holidays now.  He is using Bovo and KMahjongg as test cases.  Just
> before
> >> Christmas he reported that he had KMahjongg running, but it would not
> Quit
> >> properly…
> >
> > Ok but I can't help you in macosx support.
>
> We do not expect you to, Laurent… :-)
>
> >> So please, please hold your horses for now, Laurent… :-)  Please do not
> >> merge the frameworks branch into master.
> >
> > Ah.
> > So you don't think it”s a good idea to move theses applications to next
> kf5
> > release ?
>
> I don't understand what it is that you would like to do.  In your original
> email
> you said:
>
>     "Now I would like to merge in master as I think it's a good idea to
> have it in
>      next kde release 'kde-15.3„ kde-15.4„ I don't know when it will
> release.
>
>      What do you think about it ?"
>
> As far as I am aware, and I think I heard this from Albert on another
> list, there
> will be no further releases from master --- KDE 4.14 was the last one.
> Indeed,
> if I understand correctly, the concept of "master" is obsolete in
> Frameworks/KF5
> and releases are done from parallel repositories, e.g. Dr Konqi source code
> exists in the kde/kde-runtime repository and also (temporarily, I am told)
> in
> plasma-workspace repository on KF5.
>

This is a misconception. Only "kdelibs" no longer has a master branch that
gets released. That is simply because it has been split into many smaller
git repos "the frameworks" which are released from master branch. All
applications in Applications releases come from their respective master
branches.


>
> I am worried by what you meant by "merge in master" in the above.  If you
> meant
> frameworks+master -> master, I am against that, because I am using
> kdesrc-build
> to get code for the latest KDE 4 and cannot (yet) compile and use KF5 code
> on
> Apple OS X.  OTOH, if you meant frameworks+master -> frameworks, that is OK
> by me.  It will leave me shooting at a fixed target for any bug fixes or
> improvements
> I may write for the five games I maintain.
>

Yes, I believe Laurent means merging frameworks+master -> master. Also as
he said you can continue to build kdelibs4 based applications with
kdesrc-build, simply set:
 branch-group latest-qt4
in your global options as documented in kdesrc-build/kdesrc-buildrc-sample
which will use the latest qt4 based branch of all libraries and
applications.


> I am not against releasing games to KF5, as long as you can do it without
> undercutting
> my work in KDE 4 on the Apple OS X platform and as long as you or someone
> else can
> thoroughly test the KF5 versions.  I do not have that facility yet, nor
> can I offer support
> for the KF5 versions of the five games I maintain.
>
> If I do make changes to the five games, I will attempt to forward-port the
> changes,
> but I will be unable to test them on KF5.  There is some unfinished work
> in Palapeli,
> KJumpingCube and KSudoku, when I have time for it.


> BTW KSudoku and Kubrick depend on OpenGL and Qt's support for OpenGL
> widgets, a requirement that is not so common in other KDE software, I
> believe.
> I hope this will not present any problems re porting to Frameworks/KF5.
>

The porting has been done from what I see, the only question is which
version (qt4/kdelibs4 based or qt5/kf5 based) will be used for the upcoming
spring release (which will most likely be called Applications/15.04).

Ian, If it helps I can do some testing on linux of the frameworks branches
before they are merged. I also like Albert's idea of having one day per
application to test/debug these. We can blog about it and get some
community members to test one application each day on linux to check for
any regressions before merging the frameworks branches to master.

BR,
Jeremy

>
> Cheers, Ian W.
>
>
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