<div dir="ltr">Ian,<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Ian Wadham <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:iandw.au@gmail.com" target="_blank">iandw.au@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Laurent,<br>
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On 31/12/2014, at 5:23 PM, laurent Montel wrote:<br>
> Le Wednesday 31 December 2014 15:02:50 Ian Wadham a écrit :<br>
</span><span class="">>> Thank you very much, Laurent, for all your work on this. I particularly<br>
>> appreciate you tackling KGoldrunner and Palapeli, which are quite<br>
>> large code-bases.<br>
>><br>
>> On 31/12/2014, at 9:54 AM, Albert Astals Cid wrote:<br>
>>> El Dimarts, 30 de desembre de 2014, a les 20:59:44, laurent Montel va<br>
><br>
>>> What the maintainers of the others say?<br>
>><br>
>> I am still the maintainer of KGoldrunner, KJumpingCube, KSudoku, Kubrick and<br>
>> Palapeli.<br>
>><br>
>> Merging the Frameworks versions into master would make it impossible for me<br>
>> to work on them in the foreseeable future. The reason is that I work on an<br>
>> Apple MacBook using OS X operating system and nobody has yet succeeded in<br>
>> building and running Frameworks-based applications on that platform.<br>
>><br>
>> We have one guy (Marko Käning) working on it, but he is on Christmas<br>
>> holidays now. He is using Bovo and KMahjongg as test cases. Just before<br>
>> Christmas he reported that he had KMahjongg running, but it would not Quit<br>
>> properly…<br>
><br>
> Ok but I can't help you in macosx support.<br>
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</span>We do not expect you to, Laurent… :-)<br>
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>> So please, please hold your horses for now, Laurent… :-) Please do not<br>
>> merge the frameworks branch into master.<br>
><br>
> Ah.<br>
> So you don't think it”s a good idea to move theses applications to next kf5<br>
> release ?<br>
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</span>I don't understand what it is that you would like to do. In your original email<br>
<span class="">you said:<br>
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"Now I would like to merge in master as I think it's a good idea to have it in<br>
next kde release 'kde-15.3„ kde-15.4„ I don't know when it will release.<br>
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What do you think about it ?"<br>
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</span>As far as I am aware, and I think I heard this from Albert on another list, there<br>
will be no further releases from master --- KDE 4.14 was the last one. Indeed,<br>
if I understand correctly, the concept of "master" is obsolete in Frameworks/KF5<br>
and releases are done from parallel repositories, e.g. Dr Konqi source code<br>
exists in the kde/kde-runtime repository and also (temporarily, I am told) in<br>
plasma-workspace repository on KF5.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is a misconception. Only "kdelibs" no longer has a master branch that gets released. That is simply because it has been split into many smaller git repos "the frameworks" which are released from master branch. All applications in Applications releases come from their respective master branches.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I am worried by what you meant by "merge in master" in the above. If you meant<br>
frameworks+master -> master, I am against that, because I am using kdesrc-build<br>
to get code for the latest KDE 4 and cannot (yet) compile and use KF5 code on<br>
Apple OS X. OTOH, if you meant frameworks+master -> frameworks, that is OK<br>
by me. It will leave me shooting at a fixed target for any bug fixes or improvements<br>
I may write for the five games I maintain.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, I believe Laurent means merging frameworks+master -> master. Also as he said you can continue to build kdelibs4 based applications with kdesrc-build, simply set:</div><div>
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<span style="font-family:monospace"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">branch-group latest-qt4</span><br>
in your global options as documented in kdesrc-build/kdesrc-buildrc-sample which will use the latest qt4 based branch of all libraries and applications.</span></div></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace"><br></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I am not against releasing games to KF5, as long as you can do it without undercutting<br>
my work in KDE 4 on the Apple OS X platform and as long as you or someone else can<br>
thoroughly test the KF5 versions. I do not have that facility yet, nor can I offer support<br>
for the KF5 versions of the five games I maintain.<br>
<br>
If I do make changes to the five games, I will attempt to forward-port the changes,<br>
but I will be unable to test them on KF5. There is some unfinished work in Palapeli,<br>
KJumpingCube and KSudoku, when I have time for it. </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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BTW KSudoku and Kubrick depend on OpenGL and Qt's support for OpenGL<br>
widgets, a requirement that is not so common in other KDE software, I believe.<br>
I hope this will not present any problems re porting to Frameworks/KF5.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The porting has been done from what I see, the only question is which version (qt4/kdelibs4 based or qt5/kf5 based) will be used for the upcoming spring release (which will most likely be called Applications/15.04).</div><div><br></div><div>Ian, If it helps I can do some testing on linux of the frameworks branches before they are merged. I also like Albert's idea of having one day per application to test/debug these. We can blog about it and get some community members to test one application each day on linux to check for any regressions before merging the frameworks branches to master.</div><div><br></div><div>BR,</div><div>Jeremy</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Cheers, Ian W.<br>
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