[Kde-games-devel] Kolf -> Playgroung

[Eugene Trounev]

Very well then. Some people seem to think it should go, while others - stay. 
We will compromise then - it will stay for 4.2, and we will reason it's a bit 
too late for removal this time. !!BUT!! if Kolf (re)development isn't at least 
started by 4.3 - out it goes, and no one can stop me there (I'm an evil 
dictator (and also nothing else seems to work ;) )) :P :P :P

On Friday 21 November 2008 12:23:58 Kleag wrote:
> Le Friday 21 November 2008 13:15:33 Ian Wadham, vous avez écrit :
> > On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:36:28 pm Eugene Trounev wrote:
> > > This is all very good. Finally I got people's attention where it was
> > > needed (on the long dead Kolf game), ...
> >
> > Yes, it *is* good, but rumours of the long-ago death of Kolf seem to have
> > been greatly exaggerated ... :-)
> >
> > Wasn't Kolf released with KDE 4.0 and 4.1?
> >
> > > but this does not answer question - "Do we move it away, until it's
> > > ready?"
> >
> > If it was "ready" for 4.0 and 4.1, what has changed in Kolf since KDE 4.1
> > (August)?  The bug you mention below sounds pretty bad, but if Kolf was
> > good enough for 4.0 and 4.1, why is it *not* good enough for KDE 4.2?
> >
> > > So, do we??? If we are (and this would be a right decision), then it's
> > > better to do that now.
> >
> > I say no.
> >
> > Kolf should stay in trunk and get released and we should all bite the
> > bullet and wear the consequences.
> >
> > The real issue IMHO is not how *we* feel about it, but whether we will be
> > disappointing current players of Kolf with KDE 4.  There is nothing
> > worse, if you enjoy a game very much, than to find it has mysteriously
> > disappeared when you install a new version of KDE.  No game
> > at all is worse than a game with bugs ... the show must go on ...
> >
> > Sometimes I wonder what the uptake of KDE 4 is, world-wide, at
> > present and how many people (KDE 4 users) are able to enjoy the
> > new and improved games we have produced for KDE 4?  Do we have
> > any statistics on this?  If it is not very many people, the impact of
> > keeping Kolf on, bugs and all, will not be great and Kolf for KDE 3 still
> > works ...
> >
> > I just tried a round of the "Medium" course with both KDE 3 and KDE 4.
> >
> > The worst problems I found (in the KDE 4 version) were that round about
> > hole 12 the holes started to get scrollbars, which made them *rather*
> > difficult to play (e.g. you cannot see the hole from the starting
> > position), and the putter became uncontrollable (i.e. it could not be
> > pointed in the required direction).  And why doesn't the plan of the hole
> > fill the available space in the window?  Surely these problems would be
> > easy to fix?
>
> I second Ian on all his arguments. Kolf is a game I play from time to time
> (say 2 times a year, I'm not a hard gamer) and I ever enjoyed it despite
> its bugs. I just played two complete courses (easy and impossible). Well,
> yes, I hit a few of the reported problems but it was still pleasant to
> play.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gaël
>
> > All the best, Ian W.
> >
> > > On Monday 17 November 2008 09:35:58 Eugene Trounev wrote:
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >
> > > > Do you think we can move Kolf to Playground? It's not exactly in the
> > > > *mint* condition right now. For one the hole usually disappears if
> > > > the ball goes off the field :/
> >
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