Move KDED out of frameworks?

[Kevin Krammer]

On Friday, 2014-03-28, 20:26:59, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2014, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > D-Bus does run on most platforms, at least on desktop.
> > There was a thread on the Qt development list a short while ago which
> > discussed enabling QtDBus by default in Windows and Mac builds.
> 
> It might 'run' -- but I still wouldn't want to distribute any application
> that uses dbus on windows or osx. In fact, for krita on Windows, I've
> hacked kdelibs 4 to disable dbus completely, and I'd do the same for osx,
> if I had the time.
> 
> Just answering the questions of the people who get worried by their
> firewalls or other security software reporting DANGER! because dbus tries
> to make a local network connection is already too much of a pain.

I know,  that is currently a problem of the Windows port, i.e. it using TCP 
instead of named pipes which are more an equivalent to Unix sockets.
(as evident by QLocalSocket/-Server using that instead).

The D-Bus session/user daemon is also something that needs to be treated in a 
platform specific way as a dependency. 
E.g. on Windows there could be a D-Bus installer that applications bundle and 
run if necessary, very much like Games bunlding an DirectX installer.

Such a D-Bus installer would also register a startup hook that runs D-Bus on 
session start or user login, whatever makes sense for the platform.

Frameworks that need D-Bus, e.g. KIO would then have the D-Bus installation as 
a deployment requirement.

As with all frameworks it is up to the application developer which one they 
want to depend on and which one they treat as options.

Cheers,
Kevin
-- 
Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer
KDE user support, developer mentoring
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