KF5 current status

[Alexander Neundorf]

On Saturday 03 December 2011, Kevin Ottens wrote:
> On Saturday 03 December 2011 20:43:46 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > On Friday 02 December 2011, Stephen Kelly wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I thought it would be useful to have some statement of the status of
> > > KF5 ahead of the meeting at the weekend. I think I have a pretty good
> > > overview of what is happening across the board.
> > > 
> > > == What is happening ==
> > > 
> > > A lot of the progress so far on KF5 has not been in the kdelibs
> > > frameworks branch. So far, a lot of progress has been instead been in
> > > the area of getting some of the required changes into Qt5 and CMake.
> > > 
> > > David has been working on QStandardPaths, QTemporaryDir and QTemporary
> > > file to replace the KDE equivalents.
> > > 
> > > Alex has been working on getting features into CMake to replace automoc
> > > and and some other stuff we've used such as
> > > macro_optional_find_package, and he's been working on the clean-up and
> > > auditing of Find files in
> > > extra-cmake- modules.
> > 
> > Yes.
> > What's left to do:
> > 
> > * review the Find-modules in kdelibs (over 100), and find out which ones
> > are currently needed in the frameworks branch. Here is an overview over
> > the current state:
> > http://community.kde.org/KDE_Core/Platform_11/Buildsystem/FindFilesSurvey
> > 
> > * develop a future-proof mechanism for providing modules additional to
> > cmake in extra-cmake-modules, i.e. so that using projects can decide
> > which additional stuff they want to use, use some things maybe only for
> > some versions of cmake, etc.
> > 
> > * come to a decision how to deal with pkg-config under Windows (and OSX
> > ?)
> > 
> > * figure out how to define the default library install dir, taking Debian
> > multiarch into account
> > 
> > * figure out how to deal with the install dirs in general:
> > ** use GNUInstallDirs.cmake coming with cmake ?
> > ** keep the support for "if I install to the same prefix as kdelibs
> > (...what is kdelibs then ?), I want the same set of install dir",
> > 
> > * improve the example in kdeexamples/buildsystem/HowToInstallALibrary/,
> > so it can serve as reference
> > 
> > * somebody has to do the actual porting. Back in the KDE3->KDE4 days
> > Laurent Montel did most of this work. Here is a (hopefully) complete
> > list of changes:
> > http://techbase.kde.org/Development/ECM_SourceIncompatChanges
> 
> Excellent!
> 
> If you've seen my previous email a couple of minutes ago you probably
> noticed I'm trying to consolidate the information on our progress on the
> community wiki... And I admit I'm lacking a lot of vision in the CMake
> area, that would be very useful if you could put that information in this
> page:
> http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Epics/CMake
> 
> I would advise following a similar organization to this page:
> http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Epics/Qt_5.0_Merging
> 
> It just makes things much easier later on to get a clear picture on the
> progress and where we should put effort.
> 
> Obviously it would be ++awesome if there's a slight chance to have that
> page ready before tomorrow's IRC meeting (of course if you prefer enjoying
> your week-end I totally understand). ;-)

Hmm, I don't think I'll be able to do that before tomorrow evening.
 
> > It would be nice if we could get Windows and OSX developers more actively
> > involved with KF5.
> 
> Very good point. I think now would be indeed the right time to reach out to
> them. Alex, is it something you could tackle? 

I would hope that somebody else has better connections...

> I'd guess they have strong ties to the buildsystem area.

Unfortunately not.
I haven't heard from any OSX KDE developers for quite some time.
Our Windows developers (aka Patrick and Ralf) are also quite busy with other 
stuff.

Alex