[kde-edu]: kde-edu Digest, Vol 82, Issue 5
André Wyzykowski
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> 1. January IRC meeting (Lydia Pintscher)
> 2. Re: January IRC meeting (Tomaz Canabrava)
> 3. Re: January IRC meeting (Tomaz Canabrava)
> 4. survey results (Lydia Pintscher)
> 5. proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out. (Tomaz Canabrava)
> 6. Re: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.
> (Carsten Niehaus)
> 7. Re: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out. (Matt Williams)
> 8. Parley - survey - work on data (Sabine Emmy Eller)
> 9. Re: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out. (Aleix Pol)
> 10. Re: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.
> (Lydia Pintscher)
> 11. Multimedia Sprint 2010 - final dates and further organization
> (Myriam Schweingruber)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:56:39 +0100
> From: Lydia Pintscher <lydia at kde.org>
> Subject: [kde-edu]: January IRC meeting
> To: kde-edu at kde.org
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> Heya folks :)
>
> with the planning for the sprint being on its way we should probably
> have a meeting to discuss agenda and stuff. Steph was so kind to sort
> the survey results. I'll look into that next and distribute them.
> (Thanks a bunch, Steph!). That could also be a topic for meeting. Part
> of the survey answers need to be turned into junior jobs in bugzilla.
> Justin made a Marble video and we should come up with ideas for
> another promo video for him or someone else.
>
> http://www.doodle.com/4qkyqihyy6h6icph has the poll. It will be open
> until Sunday. Please pay attention to time zone.
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
> --
> Lydia Pintscher
> Amarok community manager
> kde.org - amarok.kde.org - kubuntu.org
> claimid.com/nightrose
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:59:59 -0200
> From: Tomaz Canabrava <tumaix at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: January IRC meeting
> To: kde-edu at kde.org
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> let's see if this time I can make it.
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Lydia Pintscher <lydia at kde.org> wrote:
> > Heya folks :)
> >
> > with the planning for the sprint being on its way we should probably
> > have a meeting to discuss agenda and stuff. Steph was so kind to sort
> > the survey results. I'll look into that next and distribute them.
> > (Thanks a bunch, Steph!). That could also be a topic for meeting. Part
> > of the survey answers need to be turned into junior jobs in bugzilla.
> > Justin made a Marble video and we should come up with ideas for
> > another promo video for him or someone else.
> >
> > http://www.doodle.com/4qkyqihyy6h6icph has the poll. It will be open
> > until Sunday. Please pay attention to time zone.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Lydia
> >
> > --
> > Lydia Pintscher
> > Amarok community manager
> > kde.org - amarok.kde.org - kubuntu.org
> > claimid.com/nightrose
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 13:06:54 -0200
> From: Tomaz Canabrava <tumaix at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: January IRC meeting
> To: kde-edu at kde.org
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> well, answered the pool, the only days I cant go are the sunday and
> saturday, unfortunately, I don't have web at home.
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:59:44 +0100
> From: Lydia Pintscher <lydia at kde.org>
> Subject: [kde-edu]: survey results
> To: kde-edu at kde.org
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> Heya :)
>
> finally got around to checking the results after Steph was so kind to
> sort them by program.
> http://lydiapintscher.de/tmp/KDE-EduSurvey.ods is the resulting
> spreadsheet. There is something for everyone ;-)
>
> Let me know which of those could potentially be turned into junior
> jobs. (If you don't want to file them yourself I'll try to find
> someone but let me know either way.)
>
> If you want access to the raw results with answers to all questions
> ping me as well. I can give you access but for obvious reasons I can't
> share them with everyone and/or unknown people.
>
>
> Cheers and I hope those are useful for you
> Lydia
>
> --
> Lydia Pintscher
> Amarok community manager
> kde.org - amarok.kde.org - kubuntu.org
> claimid.com/nightrose
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>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:32:55 -0200
> From: Tomaz Canabrava <tumaix at gmail.com>
> Subject: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.
> To: kde-edu <kde-edu at kde.org>
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> I'm planning to move rocs to gitorious when 4.4 is out, this will
> simplify a few things for me. I wonder if the whole kde-edu can be
> moved there without much hassle, we already have some big apps on
> gitorious like amarok, gluon and of course, qt itself.
>
> I didn't see much talk about gitting kde on the -devel list, so I
> think it's a module decision at this time.
>
>
>
> --
> Um Computador sem Windows ? como um Navio sem dan?arinas de Can-Can
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>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:44:53 +0100
> From: Carsten Niehaus <cniehaus at gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.
> To: kde-edu at kde.org
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> Am 06.01.2010 17:32, schrieb Tomaz Canabrava:
> > I'm planning to move rocs to gitorious when 4.4 is out, this will
> > simplify a few things for me. I wonder if the whole kde-edu can be
> > moved there without much hassle, we already have some big apps on
> > gitorious like amarok, gluon and of course, qt itself.
> >
> > I didn't see much talk about gitting kde on the -devel list, so I
> > think it's a module decision at this time.
> >
> >
> >
> There is a mailinglist dedicated to git:
>
> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-scm-interest
>
> (Almost) all discussion happens there.
>
> About your question: I would be in favour of it.
>
> Carsten
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:46:22 +0000
> From: Matt Williams <lists at milliams.com>
> Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.
> To: kde-edu at kde.org
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> 2010/1/6 Tomaz Canabrava <tumaix at gmail.com>:
> > I'm planning to move rocs to gitorious when 4.4 is out, this will
> > simplify a few things for me. I wonder if the whole kde-edu can be
> > moved there without much hassle, we already have some big apps on
> > gitorious like amarok, gluon and of course, qt itself.
> >
> > I didn't see much talk about gitting kde on the -devel list, so I
> > think it's a module decision at this time.
>
> There is much discussion of this going on at kde-scm-interest at kde.org
> and #kde-git at the moment. There are still some problems to resolve
> before any applications move to Gitorious. Amarok and Konversation are
> simply there as test subjects. The biggest issue for us is whether all
> the applications in kde-edu reside in one Git repository or whether
> they are each in their own and are aggregated somewhere externally.
>
> I'd suggest you join the discussions and meetings and offer your help
> wherever you can.
>
> --
> Matt Williams
> http://milliams.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:49:57 +0100
> From: Sabine Emmy Eller <s.eller at voxhumanitatis.org>
> Subject: [kde-edu]: Parley - survey - work on data
> To: kde-edu <kde-edu at kde.org>
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> I had a look at the survey. One thing I would really like to see happen
> (and
> I hope we can get these contacts on the way) is that people start to work
> on
> the long lists we have in a particular way:
>
> There are many language courses around. Each course could benefit from the
> lists that are there instead of starting "from scratch". The easiest way
> would be to add a column for a specific "group of lessons" where we then
> have a person who says "dog = lesson 1, cat = lesson 1, building = lesson
> 2,
> skyescraper = lesson 2, tomato = lesson 3, to cook = lesson 3" etc. -
> missing terms get added. By doing things this way the data gets better and
> better and it becomes ever less work to create lessons.
>
> Of course we can create all sorts of different lessons, but none of them
> will 100% reflect the users needs. What is planned nevertheless is the
> translation of a basic set of sentences and the words used for these
> sentences can become of course "one set of data".
>
> Files should become much smaller in future. Right how what we have is to
> let
> people know: much is already there and one can save a lot of time by taking
> what is there and working on it. There's also another reason: I have to
> make
> data quantity to work on for volunteers in "digestible bits and pieces" and
> there I still have one of those question marks to solve.
>
> Sabine
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:55:32 +0100
> From: Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org>
> Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.
> To: kde-edu at kde.org
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> Are you sure this is a good idea?
> This would be the first app inside KDE (not in extragear) to be in
> gitorious. That would mean it wouldn't be together with the rest of the
> module... :/
>
> Note that i'm not talking about technical advantages of git over svn, but I
> think kdeedu should move all at once.
>
> Aleix
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Matt Williams <lists at milliams.com> wrote:
>
> > 2010/1/6 Tomaz Canabrava <tumaix at gmail.com>:
> > > I'm planning to move rocs to gitorious when 4.4 is out, this will
> > > simplify a few things for me. I wonder if the whole kde-edu can be
> > > moved there without much hassle, we already have some big apps on
> > > gitorious like amarok, gluon and of course, qt itself.
> > >
> > > I didn't see much talk about gitting kde on the -devel list, so I
> > > think it's a module decision at this time.
> >
> > There is much discussion of this going on at kde-scm-interest at kde.org
> > and #kde-git at the moment. There are still some problems to resolve
> > before any applications move to Gitorious. Amarok and Konversation are
> > simply there as test subjects. The biggest issue for us is whether all
> > the applications in kde-edu reside in one Git repository or whether
> > they are each in their own and are aggregated somewhere externally.
> >
> > I'd suggest you join the discussions and meetings and offer your help
> > wherever you can.
> >
> > --
> > Matt Williams
> > http://milliams.com
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 19:16:13 +0100
> From: Lydia Pintscher <lydia at kde.org>
> Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.
> To: kde-edu at kde.org
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> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 18:55, Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org> wrote:
> > Are you sure this is a good idea?
> > This would be the first app inside KDE (not in extragear) to be in
> > gitorious. That would mean it wouldn't be together with the rest of the
> > module... :/
>
> Nope it's not really a good idea. You'll get a lot of fire for wanting
> to do it before all of KDE SC and there will be people blocking this
> if necessary.
> However the remaining tasks need people to do them. So the more of you
> help with writing rulesets for the conversion for example the faster
> this will get finished. If you want to help join the mailinglist or
> #kde-git. There is a meeting in #kde-git in about 1 hour and 30 mins
> from now. Join it! :)
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
> --
> Lydia Pintscher
> Amarok community manager
> kde.org - amarok.kde.org - kubuntu.org
> claimid.com/nightrose
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:05:35 +0100
> From: Myriam Schweingruber <myriam at kde.org>
> Subject: [kde-edu]: Multimedia Sprint 2010 - final dates and further
> organization
> To: KDE events <kde-events at kde.org>, Amarok Developers
> <amarok-devel at kde.org>, KDE Mac <kde-mac at kde.org>, KDE Windows
> <kde-windows at kde.org>, Amarok Promo <amarok-promo at kde.org>, KDE
> Promo
> <kde-promo at kde.org>, KDE Multimedia <kde-multimedia at kde.org>,
> Phonon
> Backends ML <phonon-backends at kde.org>, Knut Yrvin
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> Hi all,
>
> Since we have a clear preference for the second week in May, we booked
> the house from
>
> 20. - 25. May 2010
>
> I edited the Doodle accordingly:
>
> http://www.doodle.com/7dahwb5ssndrwaxz
>
> You will find more organisational information in this wiki page:
>
> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Community/SprintMay2010 [1]
>
> Please all, fill in your details in the Attendees list of the above
> wiki page ASAP.
>
> If any of you want to give a helping hand with organising, please get
> in touch with me <myriam at kde.org>, Mark <kretschmann at kde.org> or Mario
> <fux.mario at unormal.org>.
>
> Looking forward to meet you all in Randa!
>
>
> Regards, Myriam.
>
>
> [1] Since there was no clear location on the techbase.kde.org wiki, I
> chose to put it in the Amarok wiki. An alternative could be the
> /Events section, what do you think? It would be really easy to move
> since both use Mediawiki, I just need more input on this.
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