[kmymoney/5.0] doc: FDL -> CCBYSA4 for translations

[Jack]

On 2018.01.26 18:46, Luigi Toscano wrote:
> Il 27.01.2018 00:39 Jack ha scritto:
> 
>> On 2018.01.26 17:46, Luigi Toscano wrote:
>> 
>>> Il 26 gennaio 2018 23:01:26 CET, Jack Ostroff ha scritto:
>>> 
>>>> Git commit 8d3de09e36098bcf926ed058962fc58cdeb74e11 by Jack  
>>>> Ostroff.
>>>> Committed on 26/01/2018 at 22:01. Pushed by ostroffjh into branch
>>>> '5.0'. FDL -> CCBYSA4 for translations M +1 -1 doc/credits.docbook
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> https://commits.kde.org/kmymoney/8d3de09e36098bcf926ed058962fc58cdeb74e11
>>>> [1]
>>> This is not the credit for translations: it's the license of the
>>> documentation itself. Did you get the permission to relicense from  
>>> all
>>> past contributors of kmymoney documentation? Do you depend on the
>>> kdoctools version that provides the entity? Ciai -- Luigi
>> 
>> Sorry - no, I have not gotten permission from other contributors. Do  
>> I
>> need to revert those two changes (index.docbook and credits.docbook
>> both had changed FDL -> CCBYSA4) now, or can I wait to see if I can  
>> get
>> permission. Also, if some earlier contributors can't be reached, does
>> that mean the change cannot be made as long as they are listed as
>> contributors to one of the included docbook files?
> 
> As mentioned in the other email: yes, please revert, see also below  
> for a more technical reason. If some contributors can't be reached,  
> the files can't be relicensed (does not matter if they are not listed  
> if the git history says that they contributed - but IANAL, I don't  
> know what is the boundary, for example if some section is cut out,  
> can the remaining part still be considered derived? Not sure).
Revert already done.  Might I suggest that an additional comment be put  
in template.docbook that the new doc license is for new docs, and only  
for old ones if all contributors agree.  It might save this type of  
issue, although I don't know how common it is.
>> 
>> I'm now reading the KDE_Relicensing page on techbase, so I will see
>> about using the relicensecheck.pl script. I only see one entry in the
>> FDL -> CC-BY-SA 4.0 column. Does this imply that this change is only
>> likely to be made for new documents created since last year?
> 
> It was intended for new documents, and old documents need the  
> agreement.
> Also, kmymoney requires still Frameworks 5.2, while the entity was  
> introduced much later. Even if you can relicense, you can't use the  
> entity from KDocTools if you require such a lower Frameworks, but you  
> can add a local entity or just write the content of the entity  
> directly.

Ah, even more reason not to change it now.  I've asked other questions  
about getting permission in the Phabricator entry, but I'll ask again  
here - is there any suggested or sample email to send contributors  
asking them for permission - including how they would go about actually  
granting it and getting that into the relecensecheck.pl script,  
assuming that is the actual repository of such permissions (which are  
clearly wider than just the doc license issue.)

Jack