Registration

[Tobias Leupold]

Am Dienstag, 17. Januar 2023, 10:01:28 CET schrieb Ben Cooksley:
> I have checked the backend provider we use to determine if someone is a
> spammer.
> The email address of the person trying to register here was listed by that
> provider back in November 2022.
> 
> The action of KDE Identity in this instance was therefore correct and given
> their conduct I'm not going to be manually overriding it in this instance.
> I've also set the moderation flag on them for this mailing list.
> 
> For the record, due to the amount of abuse that they're utilised for, it is
> very common for VPN providers and services like Tor to be blocked from
> registering.
> 
> With regards to the conduct of this person, it is not the first time i've
> seen conduct like this (have seen far worse actually) directed at Sysadmin
> or the services we operate (for those wondering)
> 
> Thanks,
> Ben Cooksley
> KDE Sysadmin

Just so that anybody says it: Thanks for keeping this calm and professional. 
You're -- as always -- doing a great job as our Sysadmin :-)

> On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 9:36 PM Konstantin Kharlamov <hi-angel at yandex.ru>
> 
> wrote:
> > Indeed, given web sites are usually maintained by system administrators
> > and that there's also a "sysadmin" KDE mailing list, I have no idea what
> > are you doing here.
> > 
> > With that said, I'm not sure you will get any help at all after the amount
> > of insults you've done. I see someone elsewhere in the discussion even
> > started to troll you, I don't think that is a good reaction either.
> > 
> > Anyway, in terms of future advice: please apply Hanlon's Razor, it is most
> > often correct, i.e. no one attempted to attribute malice to you. People
> > make mistakes (like the one with the site), which Hanlon's razor describes
> > as well.
> > 
> > Also, vast majority of KDE contributors aren't funded (and I'm sure no one
> > by you specifically), so nobody has obligations to you.
> > 
> > Try to understand that and try to be calmer the next time you attempt to
> > collaborate with any project, be it KDE or something else. If anything,
> > insulting maintainers of a project you're interested in just impacts moral
> > resources of its maintainers, hence impacts you specifically as a user of
> > that project, as it may make maintainer procrastinate due to stress the
> > project just brought thanks to you.
> > 
> > For example, there's one big project I'm not gonna name for translating
> > API calls to analogous ones on other systems. It's hard to contribute to
> > for an outsider, which I experienced twice, I currently have a patch
> > addressing serious usability problem that no amount of pinging makes to
> > either merge or at least to review. It's just ignored. That annoys me, but
> > do I insult them? Of course no, it is an active project (mostly due to
> > paid
> > developers) which I'm using, so what good would insulting them do?
> > Nothing.
> > 
> > On Mon, 2023-01-16 at 22:36 +0100, belaz at tuta.io wrote:
> > 
> > Who could I refer to in the developers' mailing list? Hmm, let me ponder
> > this question, it's so complicated...
> > 
> > --
> > I'm using Tutanota - the end-to-end encrypted email service
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 16 янв. 2023 г., 16:24 От nmariusp1 at gmail.com:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > When you say "Did you design this thing in such way that a VPN user is
> > considered a spammer?"
> > who do you think this "you" person or group of persons is?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 11:13 AM <belaz at tuta.io> wrote:
> > 
> > I've filled the captcha properly and I'm using a VPN. Did you design this
> > thing in such way that a VPN user is considered a spammer? Really?
> > 
> > --
> > I'm using Tutanota - the end-to-end encrypted email service
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 16 янв. 2023 г., 12:03 От bcooksley at kde.org:
> > 
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 9:58 PM <belaz at tuta.io> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello there!
> > I've just tried to register on your KDE Identity thing. I did everything
> > properly and saw "Client rejected by automatic spammer detection system".
> > What is that shit supposed to mean? I'm not a spammer.
> > 
> > 
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > This usually means that you haven't completed the Google reCAPTCHA on the
> > registration page, or there was something wrong with your details.
> > 
> > Can you confirm that you have completed the CAPTCHA?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Ben