Registration

[Ben Cooksley]

I have checked the backend provider we use to determine if someone is a
spammer.
The email address of the person trying to register here was listed by that
provider back in November 2022.

The action of KDE Identity in this instance was therefore correct and given
their conduct I'm not going to be manually overriding it in this instance.
I've also set the moderation flag on them for this mailing list.

For the record, due to the amount of abuse that they're utilised for, it is
very common for VPN providers and services like Tor to be blocked from
registering.

With regards to the conduct of this person, it is not the first time i've
seen conduct like this (have seen far worse actually) directed at Sysadmin
or the services we operate (for those wondering)

Thanks,
Ben Cooksley
KDE Sysadmin

On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 9:36 PM Konstantin Kharlamov <hi-angel at yandex.ru>
wrote:

> Indeed, given web sites are usually maintained by system administrators
> and that there's also a "sysadmin" KDE mailing list, I have no idea what
> are you doing here.
>
> With that said, I'm not sure you will get any help at all after the amount
> of insults you've done. I see someone elsewhere in the discussion even
> started to troll you, I don't think that is a good reaction either.
>
> Anyway, in terms of future advice: please apply Hanlon's Razor, it is most
> often correct, i.e. no one attempted to attribute malice to you. People
> make mistakes (like the one with the site), which Hanlon's razor describes
> as well.
>
> Also, vast majority of KDE contributors aren't funded (and I'm sure no one
> by you specifically), so nobody has obligations to you.
>
> Try to understand that and try to be calmer the next time you attempt to
> collaborate with any project, be it KDE or something else. If anything,
> insulting maintainers of a project you're interested in just impacts moral
> resources of its maintainers, hence impacts you specifically as a user of
> that project, as it may make maintainer procrastinate due to stress the
> project just brought thanks to you.
>
> For example, there's one big project I'm not gonna name for translating
> API calls to analogous ones on other systems. It's hard to contribute to
> for an outsider, which I experienced twice, I currently have a patch
> addressing serious usability problem that no amount of pinging makes to
> either merge or at least to review. It's just ignored. That annoys me, but
> do I insult them? Of course no, it is an active project (mostly due to paid
> developers) which I'm using, so what good would insulting them do? Nothing.
>
> On Mon, 2023-01-16 at 22:36 +0100, belaz at tuta.io wrote:
>
> Who could I refer to in the developers' mailing list? Hmm, let me ponder
> this question, it's so complicated...
>
> --
> I'm using Tutanota - the end-to-end encrypted email service
>
>
>
> 16 янв. 2023 г., 16:24 От nmariusp1 at gmail.com:
>
> Hello,
>
> When you say "Did you design this thing in such way that a VPN user is
> considered a spammer?"
> who do you think this "you" person or group of persons is?
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 11:13 AM <belaz at tuta.io> wrote:
>
> I've filled the captcha properly and I'm using a VPN. Did you design this
> thing in such way that a VPN user is considered a spammer? Really?
>
> --
> I'm using Tutanota - the end-to-end encrypted email service
>
>
>
> 16 янв. 2023 г., 12:03 От bcooksley at kde.org:
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 9:58 PM <belaz at tuta.io> wrote:
>
> Hello there!
> I've just tried to register on your KDE Identity thing. I did everything
> properly and saw "Client rejected by automatic spammer detection system".
> What is that shit supposed to mean? I'm not a spammer.
>
>
> Hi there,
>
> This usually means that you haven't completed the Google reCAPTCHA on the
> registration page, or there was something wrong with your details.
>
> Can you confirm that you have completed the CAPTCHA?
>
> Cheers,
> Ben
>
>
>
>
>
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