Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

Ryan Rix ry at
Tue Jul 26 01:38:11 BST 2011

On Mon 25 July 2011 06:53:28 Alvaro Soliverez wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Martin Gräßlin <mgraesslin at> wrote:
> > On Monday 25 July 2011 15:57:16 Ben Cooksley wrote:
> >> >> Otherwise our users will be the ones who will suffer.
> >> > 
> >> > I really doubt anyone is going to 'suffer'... This
> >> > NamingClashCrisis is more>> 
> >> They will. As an example, KMyMoney users for instance depend on System
> >> Settings to be able to set their locale, and therefore the default
> >> currency, date format, etc.
> > 
> > In that case KMyMoney has to depend on systemsettings and has to become
> > a workspace application which I think the workspace coordinators will
> > rightfully refuse. If this is a must have configuration for KMyMoney it
> > has to add the KCM to its own configuration options. In comparison you
> > are also able to configure Phonon from within Amarok.
> Be senseful, please. Any application that depends on locale settings
> needs a way to set that correctly.
> I can tell the user to open a terminal, run kcmshell4 somethings, and
> make the required change. Or, I can tell to open Systemsettings,
>  and adjust locale settings.

Or you could embed the locale settings KCM in the KMyMoney settings dialogs. 
KCMs are nice for a reason, and that reason is integration. 

So that IMPROVES your user experience, because instead of having to open some 
OTHER application, you tell them to open the KMyMoney configuration dialogs.


> BTW, this is a very common support situation, and personally, I will
> very deeply hate the person responsible for making it even more
> difficult to support my users under a different, which we do have, and
> a lot of them.
> So, it's not a matter that there is an alternative way to do it. It's
> the matter that so far, it was very easy to point them to a solution,
> and now it's not.
> And existing solution on forums and otherwise, now won't work.
> And all that just because they chose a name that has been in use for
> over 4 years by their closest partner.
> So, as an application developer, you can bikeshed all you want, but at
> the end of the day, Gnome devs have made my life more difficult.
> Regards,
> Alvaro
> KMyMoney development team
Ryan Rix --
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