Fwd: User bus conclusion
Ingo Klöcker
kloecker at kde.org
Wed Nov 10 21:59:01 GMT 2010
On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > Em Quarta-feira, 10 de Novembro de 2010, às 18:01:18, Andras Mantia
>
> escreveu:
> > > On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, 10 de November de 2010 06:24:46 Andras Mantia
wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > > > > > So I have to ask again: do we allow or support multiple
> > > > > > logins of the same user, on the same machine (same $HOME)?
> > > > >
> > > > > Uh, I hope they won't do it. I use *a lot* multiple logins on
> > > > > the same computer, when working remotely, eg. via NX.
> > > > > This will be a bad limitation like Windows XP had, that when
> > > > > you logged in remotely, the local login was logged out. :(
> > > >
> > > > I understand that this is currently possible.
> > > >
> > > > My question is whether we *want* this and we actively support
> > > > it. Or is it just a side effect that appears to work?
> > >
> > > Well, *I* want it. :)
> > > Probably not all the apps are working correctly, but I'd rather
> > > fix the apps if there is demand for them.
> > > As somebody wrote, a user bus as an extra would be probably a
> > > nice addition, but replacing the session bus is something I
> > > don't like too much.
> >
> > Lennart's argument is that this is currently broken (it's
> > apparently more broken in GNOME than in KDE) and fixing it would
> > take a lot of effort. It's better to concentrate on the use-case
> > we do want to support, which is that of a great desktop.
> >
> > The number of users who log in multiple times simultaneously is
> > very small.
>
> The number of users using $HOME on network shares is very large,
> especially in universities but probably also in large coorporations.
> Sure, most of the time people log out on one computer before they log
> in on another computer but not always. At my work place I regularly
> start a second (Windows) session on the computer in the meeting room
> while the session on my work machine is running. I'd do the same if
> we were using Linux (which sadly we don't do). I bet that this is an
> incredibly common use case.
Okay, I should have read the whole thread before replying. Apparently,
this is orthogonal to the question whether there's a use case for a user
bus. Still this is definitely a problem for any "unique" application
that assumes it is alone at $HOME.
Regards,
Ingo
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