KDE is not an OS platform... (And neither is Gnome)

[nf2]

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Pierre <pinaraf at pinaraf.info> wrote:
> On Sunday 01 November 2009 20:12:34 nf2 wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Dario Freddi <drf54321 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Sunday 01 November 2009 17:50:56 nf2 wrote:
>> >> 1) Putting a different label on an already existing system, like I
>> >> would suggest: "This ist the standard system for the major
>> >> file-management protocols, thanks, problem solved". Technically easy,
>> >> but won't work because there are understandably different opinions on
>> >> which one to pick.
>> >
>> > Renaming is technically easy. What about porting? What about kio_http and
>> > protocols not supported by GIO?
>>
>> HTTP is an important protocol, but not so much for basic
>> file-management. You will hardly run across it in Dolphin or in
>> file-choosers. And where it is, it's probably just downloading a file
>> via HTTP GET, which is provided by both systems already. The extra
>> features kio_http provides, are tailored for certain KDE apps using
>> them. So there is no reason to change the status-quo here (But it's
>> relationship with webdav might be a challenge).
> Ok, let's suppose I browse a website requiring authentication using Konqueror
> (through kio_http). I click on a link that opens with another application. This
> application uses the GVFS http handler. That link won't work since cookies won't
> be kept, nor will Http:basic authentication "tokens"...
> Having a common dbus api for both gvfs and kio seems much better from that point
> of view since the application would then "automatically" use KIO, wouldn't it ?
>

Well - yes - i kind of expected this argument. Tricky.

On the one hand I could just say: Ok - my proposal can't solve every
problem in the world.

But what could be done to tackle this:

* Change Konq to just download such files, just like FF. Personally i
like that web-browsers are kind of their own sandbox, not sharing
session information with the rest of the computer. For instance I'm
using two browsers on my desktop: One for Gmail, and one for everthing
else. But i can hear the KDE crowd shout: That's against our credo - a
fully integrated desktop.

* Find a way to share session information between kio_http and
GVfsBackendHttp (libsoup).

* Build full HTTP support into GIO/GVFS (HTTP POST, header
information,...) and bridge HTTP too.

Norbert