overhaul of some kcm appearance
Aaron J. Seigo
aseigo at kde.org
Fri Mar 13 13:28:53 GMT 2009
On Friday 13 March 2009, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 04:15:04PM -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > if libplasma can make kwin and kdm and whatever other bits look more
> > coherent, with or without plasma, we'll be a lot closer to the goal of
> > visual coherence and consistency.
> that's a red herring, if not worse. you are arguing for coherency by
> plasmification (to whatever degree),
no, i'm arguing for coherency. <-- full stop.
> as if this was the only way to achieve that goal.
of course it isn't the only way. it just happens to be the only way that
people have actually put any effort into bringing coherency to the workspace
in the last however many years (far longer than kde4 has been in development).
> that's exactly the "plasma everywhere" way of
> thinking which you agreed is not the way to go.
now you're just twisting my words. (and that's not nice)
i'm being reasonable and agreeable and as such certainly agree that making
some random kde utility depend on libplasma "just because" wouldn't make
sense. (btw, i used ksnapshot as an example, since i both work on it and shows
a preview of the screen, which is relevant in this particular example).
however, using libplasma where it makes sense, and it absolutely makes sense
in the workspace, is, well, sensible.
so my position is "use it where it makes sense, not where it doesn't." i know
that's not exactly black-and-white and may require us to all put a bit of
thought into it because it's not black-and-white, but it's the most reasonable
> what's next? link
> kdebase apps to kdevplatform and koffice/guiutils just because they
> happen to have some nice functionality which improves coherency?
if they have some useful functionality that should be shared amongst multiple
KDE applications then that code should end up in kdelibs and shared as such.
just as we have always done in kde.
however, if the code doesn't end up in a module that creates a sensible
dependency chain, then no.
or if the type of coherency is one that isn't actually useful to anyone, then
probably not either.
neither of those things is the case here.
if you insist on your position, that's fine. we can disagree on this point.
this patch of Marco's is still going in because it's obviously the correct
thing to do from the perspective of bringing some coherency to the user
experience in the workspace components as a whole.
the rest of it is a tempest in a teapot that we can discuss over beer
Aaron J. Seigo
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