situation with window decorations

Nuno Pinheiro nuno at
Thu Aug 27 22:05:22 BST 2009

A Quinta, 27 de Agosto de 2009 21:43:42 Matthew Woehlke vocĂȘ escreveu:
> Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > nitrogen is a rather random slap-dash arrangement of things. wtf does
> > "KDE 4.2" mean for "Button Style"? this is what makes me most nervous
> > about nitrogen: yes, it is trying to improve on oxygen, but it's doing it
> > like we're back in KDE 3.1 and the name of the game is "lots of features
> > and don't worry about the results!".
> The UI definitely needs work. Oh, and for button style, it should be
> "sunken" (<- "default"), "flush" (<- "KDE 4.2") and "raised" (as in KDE
> 4.1)... I want my original buttons back :-).
> Also, "flags" is not an acceptable name for that group box...
> > * consider if things like a "drag handle" are needed or if that's just
> > there to satisfy someone's personal itch; or how about those stripes: do
> > we _really_ need them at this point or can Oxygen keep them for those who
> > like them and we can be done with them in Nitrogen? remembering that we
> > _all_ pay for additional configuration options due to config ui and code
> > maintenance.
> +1 to dropping stripes :-). +100 to dropping drag handle, it's *ugly*.
> > the good things in Nitrogen? it has those Exceptions which should allow
> > us to tune it to work better with other applications. cool.
> Exceptions was easily the feature that made me go "ooh, shiny". +1 that
> this is the best feature in Nitrogen.
> > let's leave ultimatums out of it until we have an actual impasse.
>  From past experience, I can tell you that won't take long. Various
> people have been trying to get Oxygen to accept just the non-blended
> title bars since before 4.0...
and  in the end you guys won ozone was default and you can paint the windeco 
in a different color from the window itself, i have explain this over and over 
again its fundamentally wrong as the basic design of oxygen goes, its a fine 
option but its not oxygen.
if you remember correctly you will remember that there was never an unanimous  
opinion about it several people took one side and others took another. there 
are bugs in bowth directions. In the end the kwin maintainer decided. 

I find it extremely unfair to say that we don't accept input its a lie and you 
know it Matthew Woehlke, the only thing I wont accept is the current 
implementation of the "color my windeco" as oxygen the stripes and the active 
glow are tries to tackle that issue.  
Oxygen coordinator  

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