[kde-artists] Resolving icon naming conflicts

James Richard Tyrer tyrerj at acm.org
Wed May 28 00:57:06 BST 2008

Olivier Goffart wrote:
> Le lundi 26 mai 2008, Jakob Petsovits a écrit :
>> Hi core devs,
>> JRT and I have a small disagreement about an icon name (and possibly more
>> in the future), and it seems we can't resolve this issue by discussion as
>> each of us has already presented all of our arguments and we still can't
>> find consensus.
>> I ask you, "immediate supervisors" (quote JRT) to take a look at this
>> thread: http://lists.kde.org/?t=121062542200004&r=1&w=2
>> and help us out in resolving this issue.
>> Especially regarding the question of who has the authority for icon naming
>> decisions if dead ends like this one creep up. It's a slightly difficult
>> issue as icon naming affects artists and developers alike, and doesn't
>> really belong to any existing realm.
>> kdelibs? handles icon loading and the technical side of icon fallbacks.
>> oxygen? is what i work on, but also affects other themes.
>> kdebase/runtime? has oxygen just as a "minor" part amongst other large
>> pieces of concrete code.
>> So who's responsible for this area? It also doesn't help that the
>> kdeartists module doesn't have an official maintainer listed at
>> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Release_Team#Coordinator_List .
>> So, it's basically up to Oliver Goffart (kdebase/runtime coordinator) and
>> kde-core-devel (overall input and governance) to decide how this issue can
>> be resolved. Please advise.
>> I'm sorry to steal your time with annoying issues like this, but I can't
>> handle this by myself anymore, especially with JRT asking where he can go
>> if he doesn't agree with me (and considering that neither I nor JRT have
>> any official maintainership over icon naming).
> I don't know if I'm the one which shold judge... but i'll give my opinion.
> This question is difficult to answer, because both side have good arguments.
> We need a general purpose zoom icon that would be used on a menu which would 
> contains the options.  The logical name for it would be obviously "zoom"
> But in my opinion, if a theme doesn't contains an icon for zoom-in, it should 
> fallback to the icon of it's parent theme. And NOT the global zoom icon.
> You often put severals zoom icon in the toolbar. And having several times the 
> same icon in the toolbar is in my opinion less usable than inconsistant theme 
> (while both are bad things)
> So the general purpose zoom icon should have a name like "zoom-general" 
> or "zoom-menu"
> But I don't think I'm the one to jugde, because i'm neither a usability 
> expert, neither an artist.
OK, then we should probably refer such questions to usability developers.


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