[kde-artists] [RFC][Fwd: Re: [RFC][Fwd: Re: Missing Oxygen icons (for Okular)]]

[James Richard Tyrer]

Having considered this further.  It appears that originally I had it 
backwards.  Now that I see that, my headache has greatly improved.

Please see attached toolbar from Okular Part.

Notice the problem that the:

	go-next
	go-previous

icons are being used for two different purposes (each).

I had always thought that it was the two icons circled in Green that 
needed to be changed.  However, this is wrong.  It is the icons circled 
in Red that need to be changed.  Specifically, these 4 icons refer 
movement through the pages in a document.

So I am requesting that we have 4 new icons for these KDE Standard Actions:

	DocumentBack
	DocumentForward
	Begin
	End

Naming these icons needs to consider that we have 4 icons:

	go-previous
	go-next
	go-first
	go-last

and we need to fallback to them so my first suggestions will not be 
satisfactory.  They will need to be named:


	go-previous-<something>
	go-next-<something>
	go-first-<something>
	go-last-<something>

and it seems to be a no-brainer that: "page" is the obvious choice:

	go-previous-page
	go-next-page
	go-first-page
	go-last-page

These icon names would replace the current icon names for the 4 KDE 
Standard Actions:

	DocumentBack
	DocumentForward
	Begin
	End

Note that if these new icons do not exist, it will make no difference 
because these KDE Standard Actions currently use:

	go-previous
	go-next
	go-first
	go-last

Will this be satisfactory, or are there further comments.

I presume that KDE-Core needs to approve this so they are CCd.

Note that this leaves open the question of whether or not we need a 
third context:

   	go-next-view
   	go-previous-view

-- 
JRT


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [kde-artists] [RFC][Fwd: Re: Missing Oxygen icons (for Okular)]
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:55:29 -0700
From: James Richard Tyrer <tyrerj at acm.org>
To: KDE Artists <kde-artists at kde.org>
CC: Jakob Petsovits <jpetso at gmx.at>
References: <48346E93.6060908 at acm.org>

James Richard Tyrer wrote:
<SNIP>
> I would be glad to hear other suggestions from other artists.  Since 
> these are to be the icon names for the KDE Standard Actions:
> 
> 	DocumentBack
> 	DocumentForward
> 
> perhaps, "document" is the best choice.

NO, NO, NO:  This is wrong.  The person who wrote it must have been
having a stupid attack.

Well, perhaps, he was partially correct.

We have a situation I don't like that the arrow icons are used in two
contexts.  Perhaps it would be better to also have actions:

	DocumentStart
	DocumentEnd

But we have th actions:

	Begin
	End

which are the document context and the names really don't matter as long
as developers know what they are for.

So, we could make icons:

	go-page-first
	go-page-previous
	go-page-next
	go-page-last

which would solve the issue in a different way.
	
Still, it would probably be clearer if we had a third contest:

   	go-next-view
   	go-previous-view

Specifically to handle non-ordered Next & Previous events such as those
needed for viewing a PDF in Okular.  This works like a browser does and
we could use the "go-previous" & "go-next" if they were not the same as
the icons for the Page actions.

And as I said before:

> NOTE: that it is not relevant if Oxygen isn't going to have these icons 
> since they will fallback to:
> 
> 	go-next
> 	go-previous

-- 
JRT


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