New KMessageBox Style

[pinheiro]

Em Sábado, 2 de Fevereiro de 2008 18:29, o Luciano Montanaro escreveu:
> On Saturday 02 February 2008 19:12:41 pinheiro wrote:
> > Em Sábado, 2 de Fevereiro de 2008 18:08, o Luciano Montanaro escreveu:
> > > On Saturday 02 February 2008 19:00:47 pinheiro wrote:
> > > > Em Sábado, 2 de Fevereiro de 2008 17:52, o Luciano Montanaro escreveu:
> > > > > On Saturday 02 February 2008 17:52:32 Alexander Dymo wrote:
> > > > > > Sorry, but I also think that icons served the primary role in
> > > > > > those dialogs making it immediately obvious what happened. People
> > > > > > tend to not read messages and without vivid exclamation/error
> > > > > > marks, they will not get any warning at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://home.fwo.ch/~urs/temp/kmessagebox_info.png
> > > > > > > http://home.fwo.ch/~urs/temp/kmessagebox_warning.png
> > > > > > > http://home.fwo.ch/~urs/temp/kmessagebox_list.png
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What was the original idea behind this change? To make messagebox
> > > > > > smaller? If so we can get rid of triangles in them and just draw
> > > > > > the opaque and vivid "i" and "!" signs. But I'm not sure what to
> > > > > > do with the "error" sign in this case.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://home.fwo.ch/~urs/temp/kmessagebox_error.png
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry, but I too think this is not a step in the right direction.
> > > > > The dialog may look good as it is, but is it better for usability?
> > > > >
> > > > > The icon is there for a reason -- to quickly categorize what the
> > > > > message is about. if it's just a watermark, it's less effective.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think there are a few more issue to address before it can be
> > > > > taken in consideration...
> > > > >
> > > > > - What happens when someone selects a different icon theme? The
> > > > > icon may show up more or less than the oxygen one. With something
> > > > > like the monochrome icon set, the background may show up too much.
> > > > >
> > > > > - What about accessibility, or high contrast themes? How does the
> > > > > dialogs look with something other than the oxygen style, would it
> > > > > work as well? would it work with dark color schemes?
> > > > >
> > > > > Luciano
> > > >
> > > > Do you guys even bother to read what we say??? We are working on it
> > > > as we mail...
> > > > Some new versions will come up...
> > > > If you want to enter feedback on the work itself as beeing done so
> > > > its done faster and beter join  #oxygen...
> > >
> > > Why so defensive? I just wanted to have a few more points considered.
> > > If they are, it's all right.
> > >
> > > Luciano
> >
> > The problem i see in this mailing list is that they are very good to
> > decide one thing, that is......... dont do anything leave it as it is.
> > Its bad ok lets fix it... ideas are welcome ... But lets do it beter than
> > it was.. please...
>
> It's OK that you want to improve the dialog.
>
> But the look is secondary to the functionality -- Well, maybe not to
> artists :). Also this is actually not the right list to discuss this issue.
> Code wise the patch is probably sound. The usability and accessibility
> lists should be the most relevant to discuss the potential issues.
>
> I'd really appreciate if you artist would work with those people when
> creating new designs.

 (this should be a call to all kde developers no?)
truth be told im getiing a bit tired to be treted as a "you artist" i would 
much rather be treated as a felow cologue of KDE. 
> Luciano

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