New KMessageBox Style

[Luciano Montanaro]

On Saturday 02 February 2008 19:12:41 pinheiro wrote:
> Em Sábado, 2 de Fevereiro de 2008 18:08, o Luciano Montanaro escreveu:
> > On Saturday 02 February 2008 19:00:47 pinheiro wrote:
> > > Em Sábado, 2 de Fevereiro de 2008 17:52, o Luciano Montanaro escreveu:
> > > > On Saturday 02 February 2008 17:52:32 Alexander Dymo wrote:
> > > > > Sorry, but I also think that icons served the primary role in those
> > > > > dialogs making it immediately obvious what happened. People tend to
> > > > > not read messages and without vivid exclamation/error marks, they
> > > > > will not get any warning at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > > http://home.fwo.ch/~urs/temp/kmessagebox_info.png
> > > > > > http://home.fwo.ch/~urs/temp/kmessagebox_warning.png
> > > > > > http://home.fwo.ch/~urs/temp/kmessagebox_list.png
> > > > >
> > > > > What was the original idea behind this change? To make messagebox
> > > > > smaller? If so we can get rid of triangles in them and just draw
> > > > > the opaque and vivid "i" and "!" signs. But I'm not sure what to do
> > > > > with the "error" sign in this case.
> > > > >
> > > > > > http://home.fwo.ch/~urs/temp/kmessagebox_error.png
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, but I too think this is not a step in the right direction.
> > > > The dialog may look good as it is, but is it better for usability?
> > > >
> > > > The icon is there for a reason -- to quickly categorize what the
> > > > message is about. if it's just a watermark, it's less effective.
> > > >
> > > > I think there are a few more issue to address before it can be taken
> > > > in consideration...
> > > >
> > > > - What happens when someone selects a different icon theme? The icon
> > > > may show up more or less than the oxygen one. With something like the
> > > > monochrome icon set, the background may show up too much.
> > > >
> > > > - What about accessibility, or high contrast themes? How does the
> > > > dialogs look with something other than the oxygen style, would it
> > > > work as well? would it work with dark color schemes?
> > > >
> > > > Luciano
> > >
> > > Do you guys even bother to read what we say??? We are working on it as
> > > we mail...
> > > Some new versions will come up...
> > > If you want to enter feedback on the work itself as beeing done so its
> > > done faster and beter join  #oxygen...
> >
> > Why so defensive? I just wanted to have a few more points considered. If
> > they are, it's all right.
> >
> > Luciano
>
> The problem i see in this mailing list is that they are very good to decide
> one thing, that is......... dont do anything leave it as it is.
> Its bad ok lets fix it... ideas are welcome ... But lets do it beter than
> it was.. please...

It's OK that you want to improve the dialog. 

But the look is secondary to the functionality -- Well, maybe not to 
artists :). Also this is actually not the right list to discuss this issue. 
Code wise the patch is probably sound. The usability and accessibility lists 
should be the most relevant to discuss the potential issues.

I'd really appreciate if you artist would work with those people when creating 
new designs.

Luciano