Which styles to keep?

[Robert Knight]

> That describes exactly the problem I had with "normal" people which I have
> seen digging through the style list.

Right.  But the question is how you deal with such a problem.  One
strategy is to remove many of the choices, another is to re-organise
the choices and presentation.  I guess the answer is mostly the latter
with a little of the former.

> "kdeoldies" could furthermore ship a whole lot
> of old icons and styles so the user can straight dive into the good old days
> of non-flashiness ;-)

I really would recommend not trying to be too clever with the name.
Something obvious, eg. "kde-X-styles" where X is "classic" , "retro" ,
"traditional" or something like that.

> old icons and styles so the user can straight dive into the good old days
> of non-flashiness ;-)

I don't know whether people who want those themes also want old icons
and window styles, but yes, sounds sensible.


On 20/08/07, Torsten Rahn <torsten.rahn at credativ.de> wrote:
> On Monday 20 August 2007 01:53:46 Robert Knight wrote:
> > Can I make a suggestion.  I have no qualms with making the older
> > styles available to those who would like to use them.    However,
> > there is the paradox of choice problem for users.  At the moment my
> > styles list in Kubuntu has 17 options.  Of those, about half are
> > styles which look "1990s" to me, a look which I personally do not
> > like.  In order to find those styles which do appeal to me, I have to
> > wade through the "ugly" half.   The current tools we provide to the
> > user to adjust their desktop's look and feel do not scale well.  With
> > that in mind, and assuming they will not be re-written in time for the
> > KDE 4 release, a fairly limited out-of-the-box set would probably be a
> > good idea.
>
> That describes exactly the problem I had with "normal" people which I have
> seen digging through the style list.
>
> > As a simple step which would probably be easy to do, I think it would
> > be helpful to users (and distributors) if we were to 'brand' those
> > older styles as say, "Classic" for example and make it easy for the
> > distributions to package those styles separately from the more modern
> > ones created for KDE 4.  To help users find the styles they are after
> > more easily, we could group them accordingly in the style selection
> > dialog.
>
> Yes, I also think that this would be a good idea. Note that the package
> where
> those styles should go, must not be called "kde-artwork" but should be
> called
> something like "kde(g)oldies". "kdeoldies" could furthermore ship a whole
> lot
> of old icons and styles so the user can straight dive into the good old days
> of non-flashiness ;-)
>
> Torsten
>
> > Regards,
> > Robert.
> >
> > On 19/08/07, pinheiro <nuno at oxygen-icons.org> wrote:
> > > A Sunday 19 August 2007 21:20:43, Boudewijn Rempt escreveu:
> > > > On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Riccardo Iaconelli wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday 16 August 2007 15:49:46 Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
> > > > > > an acute lack of
> > > > > > any contrast so it takes real effort to see the state of the
> > > > > > widgets properly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Palette problem. As nuno pinheiro already said, it will NOT be that
> > > > > one default with oxygen.
> > > >
> > > > Possibly -- but if there's away to get a contrasting color for the
> > > > insides of a checkbox and and a radio button, that would be nice. And
> > > > checkboxes are a bit rounded, so I have a hard time distinguishing
> them
> > > > from radio buttons.
> > >
> > > i dont have that problem and they need to be in order to be coerent with
> > > the look of the style, also there is no real issu has radio butons are
> > > usualy used alog radio butons were checkboxes with checkboxes.
> > >
> > > > Boudewijn
> > >
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> > >
> > > core oxygen icon designer
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