Which styles to keep?

Torsten Rahn torsten.rahn at credativ.de
Mon Aug 13 20:19:28 BST 2007

I personally would like to support fredrik's and nuno's opinion.

It makes no sense to discuss whether the styles and themes that were once 
designed for KDE3 could be technically ported to KDE 4. Keeping the look and 
feel of KDE3 styles makes as much sense from the point of view of an artist 
as keeping qt3-support classes in KDE4's release code.

For artists who have put as much energy into KDE4's look and feel as the 
Oxygen Team I can already imagine the pain and embarrasment they would feel 
if they had to look at screenshots that combine Oxygen Art with some really 
outdated looking style theme. 

In my opinion except for the accessibility and maybe plastik style all of the 
previous styles should get removed and we should have a new fresh start with 
hopefully a lot of new modern looking styles that match the artwork quality 
of the rest of the KDE4 artwork. 
Don't get me wrong: I'm not opposed to diversity but the quality of the choice 
among options should at least match todays standards.


On Monday 13 August 2007 18:47:03 pinheiro wrote:
> A Saturday 11 August 2007 20:50:16, Enrico Ros escreveu:
> > There's an amount of highly subjective emotional stuff (styles,
> > backgrounds, windecos, color schemes, themes, KDM themes) that will be in
> > KDE 4.
> >
> > What's in for The Release clearly will state everything about our
> > seriousness and our commitment towards breathtaking beauty and towards
> > the User. We're not obliged to put lots of half-ported half-crashing
> > (heart-breaking) stuff in 4.0, so why don't we choose a small set of
> > great defaults? There is plenty of room in 4.1 (where the added stuff
> > will be positively perceived as 'new').
> >
> > The Oxygen/Artwork team is driving a contest right now, to choose a Set
> > of Backgrounds for 4.0. Maybe the same should be done for the other 4-5
> > items. So, Mosfet, before porting it may be good to know the final list
> > of items for each category, because I agree with you that not everything
> > is worth the 4.0. Lists may be added and discussed on the TechBase.. or
> > maybe we can ask the artists?
> Well, i will give my personal opinion that might be preceved as flamy but i
> hope not, just an personal kinda artistical opinion.
> Apart from Plastic and maybe a bit .NET they all look like they came from
> another dacade and not the last one, this makes kde look bad IMO.
> keramic does not look from another decade but from another world :P (funy
> as i actualy liked it for about 2 months)
> btw what do you guys think about the current state of the oxygen theme, btw
> if any ones provides some magic so we can have perfect round corners on
> windows like this one
> http://www.nuno-icons.com/images/estilo/rect6430.png
> it will have my eternal gratitude...
> > On Saturday 11 August 2007 16:14:55 Mosfet wrote:
> > > I've been going through the styles and looking at what needs porting
> > > work.
> > >
> > > The old KWin styles are in much better shape than the old widget
> > > styles. While I am not going to suggest what to keep and what should
> > > go, (I got in trouble the last time I did that ;-), but I wonder if it
> > > is worth the porting effort to do all of these.
> > >
> > > The old widget styles include:
> > > highcolor
> > > highcontrast
> > > kthemestyle
> > > light
> > > riscos
> > > web
> > >
> > > These appear to be mostly ported by the Qt3 script. If they are to stay
> > > I'll port by hand but I personally don't think it's worth the effort
> > > for most of these. They don't hold up compared to modern styles and
> > > KThemeStyle at least is going to be obsoleted by the svg theme thingy.
> > >
> > > Like I said, the KWin styles seem to be in better shape so presents
> > > less of a problem.
> >
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