Ctrl+Y shortcut for redo

Simon Hausmann hausmann at kde.org
Fri Sep 15 13:36:53 BST 2006


On Thursday 31 August 2006 23:29, Simon Hausmann wrote:
> On Thursday 31. August 2006 23:10, André Wöbbeking wrote:
> > On Thursday 31 August 2006 13:32, Simon Hausmann wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > at the risk of starting a huge flamewar: The KDE user interface
> > > guidelines currently list Ctrl+Shift+Z as only shortcut for 'redo'.
> > > What do you think about adding Ctrl+Y as additional shortcut for that
> > > action?
> >
> > You speak about KDE4, don't you?
>
> I'd be fine with just the HIG and KDE 4. (but as you point out below it's
> already the case for KDE 3)
>
> > > On Windows and Mac OS X Ctrl+Y is available as additional shortcut,
> > > too, and I personally find it very annoying when switching between
> > > the three that I can't portably use Ctrl+Y (which is much easier to
> > > reach for my clumsy sausage fingers :)
> > >
> > > Or is it usability wise a big nononono to have two shortcuts?
> >
> > Right now in KDE3/Qt3 Ctrl+Y is already hardcoded in e.g. QLineEdit and
> > QTextEdit. So IMO we should reserve Ctrl+Y for redo in KDE3 and 4.
> > Otherwise the executed action depends on which widget has focus and
> > this is hard to explain/undestand.
>
> That is a very good point! I agree about the reservation, btw.
>
> But then Qt 4.2 tries to not hardcode Ctrl+Y anymore but adhere to the
> standard on the individual platform, which means for KDE 4 with Qt 4.2
> we /could/ free Ctrl+Y. This is in fact the case right now and only because
> of that I noticed this actually: By using a Qt 4 QTextEdit every day and
> then suddenly Ctrl+Y not working anymore because we removed the hardcoded
> scheme and choose what the corresponding environment suggests as default.
>
> So we could add Ctrl+Y to the HIG to reflect KDE 3 reality for basic text
> editing (excluding kword actually) or we leave it out and indeed free it
> for KDE 4. My vote is on the former.

Any comment from the people who are against Ctrl+Y?

Is it intentional to break behavioral compatibility with KDE 4 then to remove 
Ctrl+Y?

Simon
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