[PATCH] Konqueror about
James Richard Tyrer
tyrerj at acm.org
Wed Jul 6 21:04:03 BST 2005
Lauri Watts wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 July 2005 12.08, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
>
>> Attached is my patch against 3.4 Branch to make changes I have
>> suggested to the first page of "Konqueror Introduction"
>>
>> Specifically:
>>
>> "Home Folder" is changed to "User Files" and the icon for it is
>> changed to "gohome" so that it will always display a house.
>
>
> These two seem to directly contradict each other; Always display a
> house (why? because users understand the metaphor? or that it's their
> 'home' location?) but change the name (thereby breaking the very same
> metaphor?)
Because some of the: "kfm_home" icons show a house in front of a folder
which clearly means Home Directory. I have no problem with someone
making a new icon for "My Files" but I don't want to use the "Home
Folder" icon.
> The whole 'home' concept is remarkably easy to explain, and to
> understand, widely used both within and without KDE.
Is it really easy for users new to KDE and Linux. Remember that on
Windows the folder is not $HOME like some have said. The "My Documents"
folder is a subdirectory of the directory that is the user name just
like I am suggesting:
C :\Documents and Settings\<user_name>\My Documents
/home/<user_name>/Files
So I don't see anything simple about explaining that it is different in
UNIX and that the user should store their personal data files in the
same folder as a lot of configuration stuff.
> I would like to see the icon change, but I'm strongly opposed to the
> name change.
>
The name "User Files" describes exactly what the location is to be used
for. OTOH, it would also be possible to set it up with just a little
more code so that if the Documents path was set to $HOME that it would
still say Home Folder. But, I think that is a bad idea -- having the
default be $HOME since I don't think that we should encourage the
practice of storing user files in the $HOME directory.
Remember, we are talking about trying to improve usability for new users.
>
>> The URL for what is now: "Home Folder" is changed so that it is the
>> URL set in the Control Center in:
>>
>> System Administration -> Paths: Documents path
>
>
> That's a rather big conceptual change to spring. Home is *HOME* not
> the documents folder.
Is it really. If you don't store your documents in $HOME, then the
actual $HOME directory is a place that you don't go very often. I have
been using this setup for some time so I know more about it. With this
setup, $HOME is a place you go to ONLY when you want to do
administration and configuration functions. $HOME/Files is where you go
all the time to work on documents.
> I agree with David here: Add Documents, if it's set and !HOME and
> call it that, don't mix it up with home, which already has a meaning
> of it's own.
What meaning does HOME have to new users and when and why do users want
to go there if all of their data files and documents are stored in
$HOME/Files? Since user don't actually use HOME much (if their
documents aren't stored there), why should it have such a prominent
location?
--
JRT
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