widget style cleanup
Aaron J. Seigo
aseigo at kde.org
Wed Sep 15 02:29:13 BST 2004
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 02:33, Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 September 2004 02:41, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On Monday 13 September 2004 12:46, Stephan Binner wrote:
> > > (like KSirc->Konversation,
> > oh please no. KSirc may not be a panacea, but replacing it with the
> > usability abomination that is Konversation would be just replacing one
> Aaron, this is the kind of stereotypical usability "heh, heh, that app
> sucks donkey nads,heh,heh" comment that really gets my goat. I'd expect
> better of you.
sorry. i've discussed it with others elsewhere and didn't have the time nor
the desire at the time to polute this thread with it. some basic issues i can
pull off the top of my head:
the initial dialog is a configuration dialog
this dialog doubles as a connection dialog
this dialog pops up even if autoconnect occurs
the toolbar has two giant items in it (why doesn't it follow the desktop
settings for toolbars again?)
one of the buttons is Configure, which shouldn't be in a toolbar
the other button is "insert irc colour": this is on the toolbar because?
there are tons of rather cryptic buttons all over the place
cryptic because many have single letter labels
most of these buttons are completely not useful in many (most) situations as
they require op status
a Windows menu, which should be Tools or Window.
it uses an OSD that is, at least in its default configuration, hard to read
if you have a panel at the top of the screen it's doubly broken =(
why doesn't it use the standard passive popups?
basically, i see ksirc as a reasonably competent irc app. i see konversation
as similarly competent. both have issues, and as you can see from the above
list konversation suffers from a number of interface issues. i just don't see
any compelling reason to replace one app that our users are fairly used to
with another app that is no better and in may ways worse.
the issues in konversation are totally fixable. when/if they are and if there
is a compelling reason to use konversation over ksirc (e.g. maintenance,
dependencies, efficiency, capability), i'd be totally cool with the
replacement of ksirc happening. but it's not there yet, is it?
Aaron J. Seigo
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