[Patch] #29984 Change file permission using octal numbers
Thiago Macieira
thiagom at wanadoo.fr
Fri May 16 12:42:37 BST 2003
Dominik Seichter wrote:
>> *) Most of them don't care to learn octal notation
>
>They don't need to, because they do not change permissions at all, like you
>stated above.
Even using the widget, they don't have to know what octal is. All they will
see are numbers changing. And I believe most people that get interested by it
will see the association between numbers and checkboxes: 2 for write, 1 for
execute, etc.
And they won't have a problem unless they start writing random numbers in
there, containing 8s, 9s or more than 4 digits.
>> *) Many of those the do know octal permissions (i.e. me) don't
>> particularly want to use it in the GUI
>
>You do not have to use them in the GUI. It is just another optional
>enhancement.
I was inclined to agree with Scott up there, but I've just thought of a
situaion in which I'd gladly use the widget and permissions dialog: in case
of remote operations, like FTP or fish. In those systems, which I'm accessing
remotely, I can't just flip to my open konsole and change permissions -- it
would involve logging in to a shell which might not even be available.
Another advantage is that typing or pasting a number is a few mouse clicks
faster than checking and unchecking checkboxes.
Now, KDE isn't just for the newbies. I believe many experienced users would
benefit from this feature.
>> *) The current dialog is already confusing
>
>It is confusing, but I do not think it gets more confusing because of the
> line edit.
Here I can't argue one way or another, but I'd just like to remind that we may
have an ACL dialog coming through soon, so it might be a good idea to give
the dialogs' design some thought.
For instance, users should be aware that changing permissions might reset ACLs
(if that's the case).
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