Fwd: Re: Application duplication (was: Re: cdbakeoven)

[Ralf Nolden]

On Samstag, 20. April 2002 10:07, David Faure wrote:

[snipped to the basic idea]

He just covered what *most* users are complaining about. The thing to do here 
is start cleaning up KDE and concentrating on task-orientation. Don't get me 
wrong, I'm not against any of those editors but at the time when kate got 
into kdebase I thought what the hell is that good for ? Ok, it may now have 
it's pro's when it comes to plugins etc. codewise, so there's no point in 
removing it as it provides functionality that can't be found somewhere else, 
and for some people kwrite is just good enough and kate is total overkill.

I think we need to "outsource" certain apps to their standalone versions not 
included directly in the core KDE distribution modules like kdebase and have 
one solution (preferrably the best and simplest to use for the user) that 
ships with the base modules.

But who cares what I think when one is totally blind because he is the author 
of a program that potentially could be moved to an extra section *sigh*.....

Ralf


> Not to mention the most important drawback: user confusion and frustration.

> I know that that may make developers happy, but from a user standpoint,
> it's simply stupid. I (as a user) don't give a rat's ass on kxxx or kyyy. I
> (again, the user), want to accomplish a task:
>   * edit a file
>   * burn a CD
> and when I do that, I want to be done with it fast, and without hassle.
> This, currently, is not possible in KDE.
>
> Why is that? After many years of using KDE, I still don't know why I have
> so many editors listed there. 

> Users are task oriented. That's how M$ conquered (no pun intended :)) the
> PC: they offered the right level of abstraction at the UI level (but they
> fscked on the code side;)). 
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