Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed

Laszlo Papp lpapp at kde.org
Thu Dec 5 12:47:16 GMT 2019


No, one particular party's political propaganda (repeatedly) exceeds
getting to know someone in KDE in my opinion.

Well, with that, if a KDE person does porn, or something else that is
equally extreme, that could also be getting to know the person behind KDE.

I think drawing a false overarching conclusion is wrong. I am calling
particularly out on Brexit (and maybe political) propaganda. I am
personally not against reading a cycling trip in Europe (just an example
from the past) which is not so divisive as politics and Brexit in
particular.

On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 12:36 PM Eike Hein <hein at kde.org> wrote:

> If and when the Planet becomes majority political content, that's a
> problem we can acknowledge and deal with at that time I would say. As a
> community we're smart enough to understand that it's a different reality
> from an occasional post. Let's have that trust.
>
> But let me say it again: We discussed this before. The hypothetical you've
> laid out is not a new one. You're not explaining how the situation is
> different now from back then and why we need to review the consensus we
> already had achieved, which was informed by other thoughts like having the
> Planet be a place where we can get to know each other and the cost of
> losing a venue for that. The Planet is not a corporate outlet or a news
> feed, it's a community aggregator.
>
> Starting a thread because you don't like a particular personal blog post
> is not meeting the necessary bar. Let's not prolong it until you come up
> with something.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Eike
>
>
>
> On December 5, 2019 1:26:58 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli <
> kde at fuchsnet.ch> wrote:
>>
>> Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:24:30 CET schrieb Eike Hein:
>>
>>> But they don't, so your calculation is about solving a problem that doesn't
>>> currently exist.
>>>
>>
>> I consider that a tricky argument that leads to a slippery slope, because
>> whenever people will at political stuff, it will be  "but the other person was
>> allowed, too!", so in my opinion it's a matter of fairness.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>> Eike
>>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Christian
>>
>> On December 5, 2019 1:21:08 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli <kde at fuchsnet.ch>
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For me it's a rather simple calculation: if every contributor on planet
>>>> would
>>>> post as many articles on politics as e.g. you do, the planet would be
>>>> simply
>>>> overcrowded with it.
>>>>
>>>> Given we already have filters for languages, maybe there could be a
>>>> filter for
>>>> non-KDE stuff, so that people who to go planet.kde to read about, well,
>>>> KDE,
>>>> could filter all that stuff out.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>> Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:04:35 CET schrieb Jonathan Riddell:
>>>>
>>>>> Planet KDE exists to allow KDE people to share information about
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> themselves
>>>>
>>>> as well as their KDE contributions. A hard Brexit will affect KDE
>>>>> significantly which is why I include it here.  The idea that talking
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> about
>>>>
>>>> politics is dangerous or anti-social really scares me and is one
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> reason why
>>>>
>>>> the populists have taken over so much of the political discussion
>>>>> currently. I often get people thanking me for my political opinion
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> blogs.
>>>>
>>>> If you don’t want to read it then don’t read it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The rule we came up with is "The majority of content in your blog
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> should be
>>>>
>>>> about KDE and your work on KDE. Blog posts about personal subjects
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> are also
>>>>
>>>> encouraged since Planet KDE is a chance to learn more about the
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> developers
>>>>
>>>> behind KDE."  I've never heard anyone suggest changes to that rule.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 11:53, Christian Loosli <kde at fuchsnet.ch>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Community,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm 100% sure this topic came up in the past due to the same blog,
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> but I
>>>>
>>>> can't
>>>>>> find it on the mailing list, so I assume it happened on forums or
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> chat:
>>>>
>>>>> currently the top blog post on planet.kde.org is about voting for a
>>>>>> specific
>>>>>> political party. I understand that in these times there are many
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> countries
>>>>
>>>> with heated and important political debates, and some very
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> important
>>>>
>>>> global
>>>>>> topics as well. However, these already occupy all the news site.
>>>>>> Now if every blog appearing on the planet would target a political
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> subject
>>>>
>>>> that is very important to the blogger, planet.kde.org would be yet
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> political news/opinions feed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I want politics, I go to one of these. If I want to read about
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> KDE, I
>>>>
>>>> go to
>>>>>> planet.kde.org.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please dear bloggers: there are categories, and you can choose
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> which of
>>>>
>>>> your
>>>>>> blogs do show up on the planet. I know that some topics are very
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> important
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>>> you and obviously you are free to blog about them, but please keep
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>> planet.kde.org feed free of it, so it doesn't become a mess where
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> it's
>>>>
>>>> hard to
>>>>>> find the content people actually go there for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and kind regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
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