Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed

[Eike Hein]

I don't think we're likely to achieve consensus on making the KDE community an escapist outlet where we can hide from the world around us.


Cheers,
Eike

On December 5, 2019 1:39:57 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli <kde at fuchsnet.ch> wrote:
>Kindly don't throw in false accusations, I don't dislike that
>particular blog 
>post at all (probably it's even mostly my position), I dislike in
>general that 
>things get more and more political, so you it's getting really hard to
>find 
>projects and places where you don't have to deal with $topic  (insert 
>controversial stuff like Brexit, Bolsonaro, Trump, Fidesz, ... I'm sure
>every 
>country and region has its fair share) because you originally came to
>these 
>places for something other than politics. 
>
>As the bar has a different height for different people, I already made
>a 
>suggestion: simply create a category for it and allow to filter, as we
>already 
>allow to filter by language. 
>
>Kind regards, 
>
>Christian 
>
>Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:36:36 CET schrieb Eike Hein:
>> If and when the Planet becomes majority political content, that's a
>problem
>> we can acknowledge and deal with at that time I would say. As a
>community
>> we're smart enough to understand that it's a different reality from
>an
>> occasional post. Let's have that trust.
>> 
>> But let me say it again: We discussed this before. The hypothetical
>you've
>> laid out is not a new one. You're not explaining how the situation is
>> different now from back then and why we need to review the consensus
>we
>> already had achieved, which was informed by other thoughts like
>having the
>> Planet be a place where we can get to know each other and the cost of
>> losing a venue for that. The Planet is not a corporate outlet or a
>news
>> feed, it's a community aggregator.
>> 
>> Starting a thread because you don't like a particular personal blog
>post is
>> not meeting the necessary bar. Let's not prolong it until you come up
>with
>> something.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Eike
>> 
>> On December 5, 2019 1:26:58 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli
><kde at fuchsnet.ch> 
>wrote:
>> >Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:24:30 CET schrieb Eike Hein:
>> >> But they don't, so your calculation is about solving a problem
>that
>> >
>> >doesn't
>> >
>> >> currently exist.
>> >
>> >I consider that a tricky argument that leads to a slippery slope,
>> >because
>> >whenever people will at political stuff, it will be  "but the other
>> >person was
>> >allowed, too!", so in my opinion it's a matter of fairness.
>> >
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Eike
>> >
>> >Kind regards,
>> >
>> >Christian
>> >
>> >> On December 5, 2019 1:21:08 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli
>> >
>> ><kde at fuchsnet.ch>
>> >
>> >wrote:
>> >> >For me it's a rather simple calculation: if every contributor on
>> >
>> >planet
>> >
>> >> >would
>> >> >post as many articles on politics as e.g. you do, the planet
>would
>> >
>> >be
>> >
>> >> >simply
>> >> >overcrowded with it.
>> >> >
>> >> >Given we already have filters for languages, maybe there could be
>a
>> >> >filter for
>> >> >non-KDE stuff, so that people who to go planet.kde to read about,
>> >
>> >well,
>> >
>> >> >KDE,
>> >> >could filter all that stuff out.
>> >> >
>> >> >Kind regards,
>> >> >
>> >> >Christian
>> >> >
>> >> >Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:04:35 CET schrieb Jonathan
>> >
>> >Riddell:
>> >> >> Planet KDE exists to allow KDE people to share information
>about
>> >> >
>> >> >themselves
>> >> >
>> >> >> as well as their KDE contributions. A hard Brexit will affect
>KDE
>> >> >> significantly which is why I include it here.  The idea that
>> >
>> >talking
>> >
>> >> >about
>> >> >
>> >> >> politics is dangerous or anti-social really scares me and is
>one
>> >> >
>> >> >reason why
>> >> >
>> >> >> the populists have taken over so much of the political
>discussion
>> >> >> currently. I often get people thanking me for my political
>opinion
>> >> >
>> >> >blogs.
>> >> >
>> >> >> If you don’t want to read it then don’t read it.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> The rule we came up with is "The majority of content in your
>blog
>> >> >
>> >> >should be
>> >> >
>> >> >> about KDE and your work on KDE. Blog posts about personal
>subjects
>> >> >
>> >> >are also
>> >> >
>> >> >> encouraged since Planet KDE is a chance to learn more about the
>> >> >
>> >> >developers
>> >> >
>> >> >> behind KDE."  I've never heard anyone suggest changes to that
>> >
>> >rule.
>> >
>> >> >> Jonathan
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 11:53, Christian Loosli <kde at fuchsnet.ch>
>> >> >
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> > Dear Community,
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > I'm 100% sure this topic came up in the past due to the same
>> >
>> >blog,
>> >
>> >> >but I
>> >> >
>> >> >> > can't
>> >> >> > find it on the mailing list, so I assume it happened on
>forums
>> >
>> >or
>> >
>> >> >chat:
>> >> >> > currently the top blog post on planet.kde.org is about voting
>> >
>> >for a
>> >
>> >> >> > specific
>> >> >> > political party. I understand that in these times there are
>many
>> >> >
>> >> >countries
>> >> >
>> >> >> > with heated and important political debates, and some very
>> >> >
>> >> >important
>> >> >
>> >> >> > global
>> >> >> > topics as well. However, these already occupy all the news
>site.
>> >> >> > Now if every blog appearing on the planet would target a
>> >
>> >political
>> >
>> >> >subject
>> >> >
>> >> >> > that is very important to the blogger, planet.kde.org would
>be
>> >
>> >yet
>> >
>> >> >> > another
>> >> >> > political news/opinions feed.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > If I want politics, I go to one of these. If I want to read
>> >
>> >about
>> >
>> >> >KDE, I
>> >> >
>> >> >> > go to
>> >> >> > planet.kde.org.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > Please dear bloggers: there are categories, and you can
>choose
>> >> >
>> >> >which of
>> >> >
>> >> >> > your
>> >> >> > blogs do show up on the planet. I know that some topics are
>very
>> >> >
>> >> >important
>> >> >
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > you and obviously you are free to blog about them, but please
>> >
>> >keep
>> >
>> >> >the
>> >> >
>> >> >> > planet.kde.org feed free of it, so it doesn't become a mess
>> >
>> >where
>> >
>> >> >it's
>> >> >
>> >> >> > hard to
>> >> >> > find the content people actually go there for.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > Thanks and kind regards,
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > Christian

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