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[Paul Brown]

On sábado, 11 de agosto de 2018 20:39:51 (CEST) Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> Everyone seems fine for Promo to be run in an opaque way with
> community members unable to take a full part. 

What do you think is opaque, Jonathan? It would help us if you could give us 
concrete examples so we could change anything that isn't working.

> That makes it
> uninteresting as a volunteer activity for me so I stopped doing promo
> again.  The promo team is very welcome to work with me on Plasma
> releases, 

This is good news.

> although they've had a very poor record of doing this in the
> past.

I recall things differently, than again, we have worked with several projects, 
(such as Kdenlive, Krita, etc.) on their releases and things have worked well. 
I may be mixing things up. The thing is, if we can make it work for them, we 
can sure make it work for Plasma.

As with other projects, for which we have representatives connected to the 
Promo channels all day, every day, I would again like to invite you to rejoin 
Promo actively so we can all work together openly on what's best for Plasma.

Cheers

Paul



> 
> Jonathan
> 
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 01:16:44AM -0700, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> > Sorry to speak up so late in this process; however I need to make an
> > Akademy report.
> > 
> > Jon, have you worked out with the Promo team how best to coordinate
> > release promo in the future? If not, is there someone else in the
> > Plasma release team who will be taking over this duty?
> > 
> > I would appreciate a response today.
> > 
> > Valorie
> > 
> > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Andy B <anditosan1000 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On July 19, 2018 at 9:26:03 AM, David Narvaez
> > > (david.narvaez at computer.org)
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Jonathan Riddell <jr at jriddell.org> 
wrote:
> > >> I did but I see nobody has an interest in me being a full part of it
> > > 
> > > That's simply not true: we have all seen Paul Brown's message where
> > > you are invited to participate in the promo team. What you mean to say
> > > is that you are not allowed to be part of the promo team under your
> > > own rules and conditions, but when you put it like that you do not
> > > sound much like a victim and you lose some negotiation power.
> > > 
> > > While I personally have no position regarding your one-man charge
> > > against the promo team (I do not have enough information to pick a
> > > side here), I am very much against your theatrical portrayal of the
> > > issue when we can all clearly see what is going on here. If you want
> > > to do promo under your own terms like back in the ol' days 15 years
> > > ago, then just say so, no need to play victim.
> > > 
> > > David E. Narvaez
> > > 
> > > Before we are too flustered by this interaction, let’s see what we can
> > > do
> > > now. Jon, does the team need to post anything to our twitter account? Is
> > > there something that needs to be out soon?


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