Let's get rid of UNCONFIRMED/CONFIRMED

Paul Brown paul.brown at kde.org
Tue Feb 27 12:30:12 GMT 2018


On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 13:16:03 CET Aleix Pol wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Paul Brown <paul.brown at kde.org> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 11:51:42 CET Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 11:47:22 CET Paul Brown wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 11:41:04 CET Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
> >> > > Given that bugzilla is a tool for developers, I don't care that users
> >> > > might
> >> > > get confused.
> >> > > 
> >> > > > We don't have this problem with phabricator tasks because they can
> >> > > > be
> >> > > > either Open or closed (for whatever reason).
> >> > > 
> >> > > I don't let users report issues in phabricator anyway, because
> >> > > phabricator
> >> > > is where we plan our work. Bugzilla is the big pile of shit that
> >> > > comes
> >> > > from
> >> > > the outer world. So, phabricator's lack of fine-grained task statuses
> >> > > is
> >> > > irrelevant.
> >> > 
> >> > So... where are users supposed to report bugs?
> >> 
> >> Users report bugs in bugs.kde.org. But that doesn't change that
> >> bugs.kde.org is a tool for the developer, not the user. Once the bug is
> >> in bugzilla, it's my property, as a developer, and I need to have a
> >> workflow that allows me to efficiently handle over a thousand bug
> >> reports a year.
> >> 
> >> Users do treat bugs.kde.org as a helpline, but that's invalid, and I
> >> close
> >> such help requests as invalid, though I also give the users the help they
> >> need, of course.
> > 
> > I'll ask the question again with a slight modification: So... where are
> > users supposed to report bugs according to you?
> 
> bugs.kde.org is the place.
> Most of the time developers spend nowadays looking into bugs is
> selecting actual bug reports among piles of issues that may be
> duplicated or have problems far from our reach, which is what
> Boudewijn is describing there.

Is it true that users get confused by the bugtracking system? If so, this is 
an issue, right?

Paul
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