Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

Ben Cooksley bcooksley at kde.org
Sun Jan 8 21:50:42 UTC 2017

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Ben Cooksley
KDE Sysadmin

> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Valorie Zimmerman
> <valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm writing at the request of the sysadmins, who would like to hear
>> from the community about distributions' use of KDE infra.
>> I'm part of the Kubuntu community and will use it as the example I know
>> best.
>> Kubuntu has some KDE wiki pages, found at
>> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu - for which we are very grateful.
>> Ubuntu has a wiki we used to use, but between the awfulness of
>> MoinMoin and the spam attacks on it, we love being at home at the KDE
>> wikis.
>> For some time we've been using notes.kde.org as well, and are planning
>> how to use share.kde.org now that notes is closing down. We'll need to
>> set up a Kubuntu group so that all Kubuntu team members who need
>> access can actually access the shares. One of the advantages of using
>> KDE infra over piratepad or so, is that we can add a password if
>> necessary, and share among other KDE packagers if necessary.
>> We are also interested in having a Phab instance for Kubuntu mostly
>> for the todo/workboard. Right now, we're using Trello, but would
>> prefer to use Free software if possible. And the beauty of Phabricator
>> is that we can keep more of our "stuff" in one place. For instance, it
>> includes a wiki as well, which we might use for packaging
>> documentation. Very slick to have all our packaging stuff in one
>> place.
>> However, the sysadmins would like the KDE community support for this,
>> since it could be seen as a "slippery slope." In addition, Ben
>> Cooksley said, "we'll need to come up with some guidelines surrounding
>> what distributions can ask us for, given the Manifesto / KDE Project
>> rules.
>> I would love to see more KDE distros getting cozy with the KDE
>> community because I don't like to see fighting between packagers and
>> developers, and communication is key.
>> Our Manifesto [1] says: Being part of the international KDE community
>> conveys certain benefits: ....Make use of KDE infrastructure for
>> project hosting. I've noticed that some KDE projects do not use KDE
>> infra, such as bugzilla, websites, and even mail lists. I thought the
>> rule was that all KDE projects would move to KDE infra, so this
>> surprised me.
>> On the other hand, groups which are associated with the community but
>> will never be "KDE projects" such as KDE distros, are not mentioned in
>> the Manifesto. We do already host the KDE Packagers list [2], and
>> Distributions list [3] which supports the Distribution Outreach
>> Program [4].
>> What do you say? Obviously we want to support KDE distributions. Where
>> do we draw the line?
>> Valorie
>> 1. https://manifesto.kde.org/benefits.html
>> 2. https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-distro-packagers
>> 3. https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/distributions
>> 4.
>> https://dot.kde.org/2016/03/03/announcing-kde-communitys-distribution-outreach-program
>> --
>> http://about.me/valoriez

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