[kde-community] user stats for Neon

Thomas Pfeiffer thomas.pfeiffer at kde.org
Sat Apr 16 01:05:38 UTC 2016


On Freitag, 15. April 2016 17:46:45 CEST Albert Vaca wrote:
> What's the problem with pinging the Neon servers? Any system already does
> way more than that when checking for updates, not to mention when you
> connect to a website, or even IRC.
> 
> How can this ping be violating any privacy if we don't even need to store
> the IP, just a unique ID? We can even generate the ID ourselves so it can't
> be matched with other sources. I don't see how this can have any impact to
> privacy nor any other use than counting people using Neon.
> 
> I don't understand this extremism and I'm sad to see it in our community,
> specially when other free projects like Firefox have been collecting way
> more complex analytics (opt-out) for a while with a positive impact for
> them.

Firefox uses a pretty obvious opt-out, though. Yes, the box is checked by 
default, but it shows it explicitly to users at the first run, they don't have 
to actively look for it in the settings.

I am all for more analytics (probably more than many others, given that I'm a 
user researcher), we really need that, but users have to be clear about what's 
going on. Firefox provides that. This sort of opt-out would be fine with me, we 
really just have to make it very obvious.




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