[kde-community] user stats for Neon

Albert Astals Cid aacid at kde.org
Mon Apr 18 22:32:16 UTC 2016


El dissabte, 16 d’abril de 2016, a les 3:05:38 CEST, Thomas Pfeiffer va 
escriure:
> On Freitag, 15. April 2016 17:46:45 CEST Albert Vaca wrote:
> > What's the problem with pinging the Neon servers? Any system already does
> > way more than that when checking for updates, not to mention when you
> > connect to a website, or even IRC.
> > 
> > How can this ping be violating any privacy if we don't even need to store
> > the IP, just a unique ID? We can even generate the ID ourselves so it
> > can't
> > be matched with other sources. I don't see how this can have any impact to
> > privacy nor any other use than counting people using Neon.
> > 
> > I don't understand this extremism and I'm sad to see it in our community,
> > specially when other free projects like Firefox have been collecting way
> > more complex analytics (opt-out) for a while with a positive impact for
> > them.
> 
> Firefox uses a pretty obvious opt-out, though. Yes, the box is checked by
> default, but it shows it explicitly to users at the first run, they don't
> have to actively look for it in the settings.
> 
> I am all for more analytics (probably more than many others, given that I'm
> a user researcher), we really need that, but users have to be clear about
> what's going on. Firefox provides that. This sort of opt-out would be fine
> with me, we really just have to make it very obvious.

+1 Firefox does it well (imho) and i have not seen any backslash about it, so 
kudos to its researchers that came up with it.

Cheers,
  Albert

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