[kde-community] Fwd: KDE Vision – towards “wholesame” solutions

[Jaroslaw Staniek]

On 15 February 2016 at 19:12, Ingo Klöcker <kloecker at kde.org> wrote:

> On Sunday 14 February 2016 23:57:56 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 13, 2016 13:12:52 Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer wrote:
> > > I agree that integration within our projects is important. And I
> > > believe it has suffered lately as the cohesion inside KDE became
> > > less. My gut feeling is that this should go in the mission.
> > >
> > > > I would suggest a sentence like the following:
> > > > “KDE aims to offer complete, well-integrated solutions – while
> > > > connecting different platforms, devices and online services.”
> > >
> > > That sounds good to me.
> >
> > To me too, but I still miss the reference that it is about software
> > with graphical user interfaces (GUI's can also have gesture or voice
> > input etc.), which Olaf seems to imply too.
> > I mean, we are not targetting e.g. sensor networks built from 8bit uCs
> > communicating to some big online server, with no user intervention
> > (which would fit that description too), or are we ?
>
> Please don't speak for me. You've made it absolutely clear that _you_
> are only interested in GUI. That's totally fine. We need people who
> focus on (G)UI applications. But we also need people who focus on non-
> GUI-stuff. A large part of Frameworks 5 is non-GUI-stuff. Akonadi (and
> its spin-off) is non-GUI stuff.
>
> Therefore, I'm against a-priori excluding anybody who is not interested
> in (G)UI applications from KDE by restricting ourselves in our vision to
> (G)UI applications.
>
> Of course, the mission statement can mention that we _mostly_ (but not
> entirely) focus on (G)UI applications and supporting libraries and
> services.
>
>
>
>From another angle: it's something seriously not good if mature, nontrivial
apps are ​not layered. Then, for sufficiently complex challenges (think
PIM, IDEs, RADs) the architecture benefits from having purely non-GUI
layers. It's a bit more forced by-design with the Qt Quick tech but should
be encouraged also for the QWidget world that is the current stable reality
for us, KDE.


> Regards,
> Ingo
>
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