[kde-community] About ocs-server future

Claudio Desideri happy.snizzo at gmail.com
Fri Jan 15 15:25:18 UTC 2016


Ok, I admit it. You're right in everything you said. Now I got your point
of view and it was all my fault due to my inability to understand things
and talk with you, of my thick-headness, my lack of pragmatism and
motivation. Therefore I honestly can't go on with partecipating as a
developer in this community. I won't go on with the development of
ocs-server, for all the reasons above, and because I don't feel comfortable
anymore in this community as a contributor with responsabilities towards
the community itself. I'm quitting and no more interested in any ocs
activity as a contributor. I hope you respect my choice and accept my
sincere apologies for the troubles I caused by speaking to everyone.

That said, as a user I have a last genuine question:
What's the future of OCS now? Did something came out at the meeting?

2016-01-15 14:54 GMT+01:00 Sebastian K├╝gler <sebas at kde.org>:

> I'm cutting out a lot of text here, which again contains
> misrepresentations,
> but I don't think discussing these in detail contributes to a conclusion
> here,
> so I'll concentrate on what matters instead.
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2016 03:54:15 AM Claudio Desideri wrote:
> > been used replacing openDesktop, however, i got no response at all. After
> > repeatedly asking, I was told it would have been part of incubation
> phase.
> > Now, I don't know project phases as much as you do, but I believe
> > incubation happens way before is inside KDE. Then, logically, that means
> > ocs-server wasn't inside KDE. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> The ocs-server project you were working on doesn't need incubation since it
> started inside KDE, as a KDE project. The incubation process is there for
> external project that want to move into KDE with their infrastructure and
> become part of the wider KDE community.
>
> https://community.kde.org/Incubator has more detailed information.
>
> The point that you are misunderstanding, and which I explained to you
> multiple
> times (I recall you were really thick-headed about it, or I simply failed
> explaining it well enough) is that it's not me and not Blue Systems to
> decide
> which codebase gets used and if the opendesktop services are going to be
> replaced at all. This decision is made by the community, and such a
> decision
> simply cannot be made before a solution is ready. If anybody told you that
> your project would never be used (I'm 100% sure I didn't), then that's at
> best
> guess work. I simply asked you to take part in defining a road forward, you
> contracted that time and time again into what seemed suitable to your
> mental
> model, or what you wanted to understand. In contrast, this lack of
> understanding of failure of communication was not an issue with every other
> person I talked to about this topic.
>
> My impression was that you were only interested in ocs-server if there was
> a
> financial compensation, and that you were not open to consider alternative
> solutions, should the result of an evaluation bring that forward as the
> most
> promising future roadmap. In my opinion, that attitude lacks intrinsic
> motivation and pragmatism to be really useful for KDE. It's your call,
> however, and I respect that decision.
> --
> sebas
>
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