[kde-community] stackexange site for krita

Ben Cooksley bcooksley at kde.org
Thu May 28 13:19:43 BST 2015 

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Scott Petrovic <scottpetrovic at gmail.com> wrote:
> The way we are designing this Q&A site, I am starting to think it is a bit
> clumsy. This "answer to a question" will always be specific to a project.
> Even if we get the filtering thing to work, it will always need to be
> filtered on every page. Every project will have to have this sticky state -
> hiding all other project questions and answers from the end user. It adds a
> level of 'required configuration' that doesn't exist in Q&A sites. This just
> seems clunky and unnecessary.
>
> I almost feel that this solution needs to take a slightly different
> approach.
>
> 1. Have http://answers.kde.org/kde/ go to a KDE specific Q&A site. "What is
> KDE". "How do I help with translations". Things like that.
> http://answers.kde.org could also redirect to here
>
> 2. From there, individual projects will need to request their own Q&A site
> if they really think they are wanting one. Krita would be (
> https://answers.kde.org/krita/ )
>
> With the Krita pilot site, KDE will be able to decide if the WordPress +
> plugin is a good standard for any future infrastructure requests. If the
> Krita version is successful, I could also help if KDE wants to have a more
> general purpose KDE themed version. This KDE version could also be the base
> theme for any new projects that are created in the future.
>
> How does this direction sound? Are there technical hurdles with this? What
> are the downsides?

This direction is fine with me, assuming the current plugin can't work
with all applications sharing the same instance.
I'd recommend we use Wordpress Multi-Site functionality as the core is
essentially the same for each subsite.

>
> Scott

Cheers,
Ben

>
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Scott Petrovic <scottpetrovic at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Alright.
>>
>> Carl - I think once we start adding content to this and use it, we don't
>> want to have the possibility of everything being deleted. A lot of people
>> are going to be spending time building this up. It would be disheartening
>> since this is part of a support system. Links will be pointing to this in
>> blogs. We will be referencing it in IRC and forums - in addition to any SEO
>> benefits that would be lost in the trial months. We need to get a good long
>> term solution in place and then roll with it. I think that will create more
>> confidence and drive higher usage as well.
>>
>> Rick - you seem to have a solution for this. Do you want to take a stab at
>> making the fixes? With the direction we were going, we were wanting to have
>> the search be filtered by category. Also, it would be nice to have a URL
>> that would make the categories sticky. That way when you are on a product,
>> it will stay on that project. This will make it easier for a project to link
>> to the Q&A site and they know everything will be filtered by their project.
>> If interested, you can probably put in a infrastructure support ticket to
>> get access (https://sysadmin.kde.org/tickets/).
>>
>>
>> For the styling, we will have to make it KDE styled since it will be for
>> all projects. Making the design look like Krita branding would be confusing.
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:25 AM, Rick.Timmis <Rick.Timmis at abazander.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Dragon 32
>>>
>>> Carl Symons <carlsymons at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 05/13/2015 06:02 PM, Scott Petrovic wrote:
>>> > I started configuring the Q&A site plugin.
>>> >
>>> > https://answers.kde.org/
>>> >
>>> > You can search for questions or add your own. One issue I am having
>>> > with
>>> > this plug-in is you cannot filter by category(product) before you ask a
>>> > question. All of the different products get lumped together in the same
>>> > search. For the questions I made, typing in "transform" will bring up
>>> > questions in multiple products. There is no way to tell what product a
>>> > question belongs to currently.
>>> >
>>> > Out of the solutions that I have found, I haven't seen a Q&A site
>>> > solution that is designed in the direction we were going (select a
>>> > category, then ask a question). Does anyone else have any thoughts?
>>> >
>>> > Scott
>>> >
>>>
>>> My first thought is that this is not ready for general KDE Q&A. The plan
>>> was to get the wrinkles out with Krita, using this as a pilot (and dev
>>> site). People need to know that it is likely that there will be major
>>> tweaks, as well as the possibility that all the data may disappear.
>>>
>>> I agree with you Scott. I would expect to be able to look for questions
>>> dealing with Krita and not get other products. It doesn't work like I
>>> thought it would.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I think the Ajax type ahead search might be the cause of the problem. I
>>> don't think it will work well with lots of data and results. Also it is most
>>> likely not honouring the category selected. Can it be turned off ?
>>>
>>> I really like this as a starting point, clean, simple and the categories
>>> are perfect for KDE Applications.
>>>
>>> Support for wildcard entries would be good too.
>>>
>>> So far I like it
>>>
>>> Rick
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:23 AM, Boudewijn Rempt <boud at valdyas.org
>>> > <mailto:boud at valdyas.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     --
>>> >     Boudewijn Rempt | http://www.valdyas.org | https://www.krita.org
>>> >
>>> >     On Wed, 6 May 2015, Luca Beltrame wrote:
>>> >
>>> >         Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
>>> >
>>> >         Hello Boudewijn,
>>> >
>>> >         first of all thanks for replying.
>>> >
>>> >             model. The forum encourages discussion and sharing work,
>>> >             while here we
>>> >             want to have a question per topic, answers, and a kind of
>>> >             game system
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >         Do you think that such a way would be better suited for Krita?
>>> > I
>>> >         ask because at least in the forums I man (not Krita, you guys
>>> >         are too good at it yourselves ;) I see (still occasionally
>>> >         though) other users stepping in and giving advice (this is most
>>> >         evident in the Plasma 5 forum).
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     Well, as I said, it's mostly a different kind of interaction, so
>>> >     what I want is give users what they're expecting: a forum for
>>> >     wide-ranging discussion-type interaction and a q&a site for
>>> >     questions and answers. The one doesn't replace the other.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >         OK, that's not the level of involvement I'd like to see, but
>>> >         it's a start.
>>> >
>>> >             where answers can be upvoted or downvoted and marked as
>>> >             correct. And then
>>> >             the site must be easily searchable.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >         This last sentence warrants some additional questions: what are
>>> >         issues w/search?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     It's a matter of how google indexes stuff, I'd say.
>>> >
>>> >     Boudewijn
>>> >
>>> >
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