Commercial Linux software

[Andrew]

Eugene,
  Actually I think now is the perfect time to start thinking about the
inclusion of pay supported applications. When dealing with a distribution
platform there are many things to consider including:

   - licensing : including subscriptions, affliate programs, system
   constaints etc
   - individual repositories based on user purchases - so you need to
   consider authentication etc
   - large data formats - for example some game applications have 1Gb+
   downloads - would this be better via bittorrent vs other means
   - Looking at non app items such as ebooks, movies, music etc.

I am sure I missed somethings regarding ther things that consideration. I
have some in my personal research on this - but not on hand.

I also disagree that the market is infinately small, there are a lot of
Linux commercial applications available however they are hard to find
because there is no central place to market them. In just about every genre
of applications there is a commercial application; and I would also look at
the success of the Android/mobile platform - the market wasn't there until
it was created. We shouldn't also limit it to desktop applications - the
server/web space is an area that I think could also benefit.

I also think the game market on a Linux platform could be boosted
dramtically if there was an easy way to install and use high quality
programs. Games is one of the last hold-outs for Linux success on the
desktop. Game manufactures really don't have a good way to get the games
into players hands under Linux and a system like this could get the ball
rolling.

I also think the use of in-app payments and donations is one area that could
really be potentially a big deal. I think consideration of this is required
as things like SDK's and business functionality needs to be looked at now
and not added later.

Sorry I don't mean to sound abrupt :) I am very excited by this prospect,
and would love to see it come through as a reality!

Best Regards
Andrew Mee


On 15 February 2011 05:13, Eugene Trounev <eugene.trounev at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, we actually talked about this briefly at bretzen, but agreed that
> this was not a priority right now. The paid application market under linux
> is infinitely small, + there is no point even talking about this before we
> have a sensible distribution platform for it.
> So, plan minimum - develop a cross distro, cross architecture, easy to use
> distribution platform.
> Plan maximum - start thinking about what to sell, and how.
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Eugene Trounev
>
> [it-s]
>
>
>
> 2011/2/14 Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet at gmail.com>
>
>>  On 2011-01-27 Andrew wrote:
>> > Hello all,
>> >   thanks Jos for the introduction. What I was discussing with Jos was
>> that
>> > about 12 months ago I was investigating the possibility of a
>> cross-distro
>> > app store for the commercial side of Linux apps. Some of the things that
>> > came up was the payment and licensing handling and in-app payment work.
>> > Unfortunately the lack of resources at the time prevented me from
>> promoting
>> > this idea further.
>> >
>> > When discussing the common app installer with Jos I mentioned that the
>> > commercial applications (and other digital deliverables) had
>> unfortunately
>> > not been well promoted, especially in the gaming and commercial
>> development
>> > tools; let alone a micro-payment donation system etc.
>> >
>> > I have been working in payment systems (for all different payment
>> > types), micro-payment, affiliate and mass payout systems for the last 4
>> > years. I have been involved at all levels including bank gateways, fraud
>> > controls and working with PCI compliance .
>> >
>> > I am still reviewing some of the information that Jos has gave me and I
>> am
>> > looking forward to seeing project going.
>> > Looking forward to hearing more and joining the list.
>>
>> Laddies and gents, I haven't seen any replies to this - has there been any
>> thought on payment systems, on commercial apps etc? Does this have to
>> happen
>> with the Appstream team? Other?
>>
>> > Regards
>> > Andrew Mee
>> >
>> > On 27 January 2011 14:43, Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > On 2011-01-27 Andrew wrote:
>> > > > Jos,
>> > > >
>> > > >    it was really good to talk to you last night regarding the common
>> > > >    app
>> > > >
>> > > > installer work. I am very interested in seeing what I can bring to
>> the
>> > > > table with regards to this project.
>> > > >
>> > > > First off you now have my contact details and perhaps we can discuss
>> > > > all this further over a coffee before you go.
>> > > >
>> > > > In the meantime I'm going to do some catch-up on what you mentioning
>> to
>> > >
>> > > me!
>> > >
>> > > Awesome. Let me introduce you to Frank Karlitschek & the bretzn team!
>> > >
>> > > Guys, I spoke last night wit Andrew Mee who mentioned he has once been
>> > > thinking about and working a bit on a payment system for open source
>> app
>> > > store
>> > > stuff. He's knowledgable in this area and might be able to help you
>> guys
>> > > out
>> > > in this rather complicated area! Subscribe him to the list and be sure
>> to
>> > > suck
>> > > him in ;-)
>> > >
>> > > Also be sure to keep Vincent in the loop, as well as the other distro
>> > > people!
>> > >
>> > > > :)
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks Again,
>> > > >
>> > > > Andrew Mee
>> > > > +61401665068
>>
>>
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Regards

Andrew
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